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Old 08-02-2010, 04:24 PM   #1
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Yea, message board culture is hilarious. The guys who called into sports radio shows are as bad as it gets though.
I'll ask you, Zach, since I don't expect to have this question taken seriously by Sedated:

Who in the KC radio or print media would you consider good at their jobs in comparison to their counterparts in other cities?

If you don't read/listen much out of town, feel free to just respond with who you think does a good job.
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Old 08-02-2010, 04:29 PM   #2
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You know who was a very, very good football writer for the Star?

Ivan Carter.

Reading Carter's work was a pleasure. Reading Liz Merrill, Teicher and Babb was/is like reading Highlights For Kids.
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Old 08-03-2010, 08:45 AM   #3
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You know who was a very, very good football writer for the Star?

Ivan Carter.

Reading Carter's work was a pleasure. Reading Liz Merrill, Teicher and Babb was/is like reading Highlights For Kids.
I wondered how long it would be before his name came up. He left for the Redskins, correct?
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Old 08-03-2010, 10:30 AM   #4
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I wondered how long it would be before his name came up. He left for the Redskins, correct?
Right area wrong team...Ivan writes for The Washington Post, but he covers the Washington Wizards. I think Ivan was the last NBA reporter The Star had.
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Old 08-02-2010, 04:29 PM   #5
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I'll ask you, Zach, since I don't expect to have this question taken seriously by Sedated:

Who in the KC radio or print media would you consider good at their jobs in comparison to their counterparts in other cities?

If you don't read/listen much out of town, feel free to just respond with who you think does a good job.
Here is my point more so...I will switch it up a bit.

My answer? It doesn't matter. It really doesn't.

Every fan of every team thinks their beat guys are hacks...seriously...every hardcore sports fan thinks that [blank] associated with their organization is the absolute worst. I am not ripping on anyone I am just pointing out what I think is really obvious is sports and message board culture.

The skill or lack of skill real or perceived matters little. Familiarity breeds contempt.
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Old 08-02-2010, 04:36 PM   #6
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Here is my point more so...I will switch it up a bit.

My answer? It doesn't matter. It really doesn't.

Every fan of every team thinks their beat guys are hacks...seriously...every hardcore sports fan thinks that [blank] associated with their organization is the absolute worst. I am not ripping on anyone I am just pointing out what I think is really obvious is sports and message board culture.

The skill or lack of skill real or perceived matters little. Familiarity breeds contempt.
Disagree with "every fan of every team thinks their beat guys are hacks."

You'd be hard pressed to find someone who considered Ivan Carter a "hack."

My two other teams, the Cardinals and Blues, also have tremendous writers following the teams, IMO.

I think you're reaching a bit, but I do appreciate your response.
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Old 08-02-2010, 05:29 PM   #7
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Every fan of every team thinks their beat guys are hacks...
I don't find that true with Los Angeles sports writers that cover the Lakers, Kings, Dodgers and Angels.

I think that most New Yorkers are happy with the beat writers that cover the Jets, Mets, Yankees, etc.

The KC sports writers DO and have for the most part, SUCK. Going back to the 70's even, the local media was awful. Teicher is complete and utter crap and Kent Babb commonly makes mistakes on Twitter and even in The Star.

Ivan Carter was the best KC beat person I can remember and he left for DC.

I'm betting they don't hate him there.
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Old 08-02-2010, 05:48 PM   #8
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STORY UPDATE:
KC STAR ANNOUNCES LAWTON RESIGNATION
We have been informed by a source at the Kansas City Star that the newspaper has officially announced the resignation of Holly Lawton as Sports Editor.
She denied her resignation had anything to do with a perceived conflict with Jason Whitlock.
"Nope, not at all," she told Bottom Line.


Read here: http://www.bottomlinecom.com/kcnews/...kvslawton.html






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08-02-2010
LAWTON RESPONDS TO WHITLOCK ISSUES
Outgoing Kansas City Star Sports Editor Holly Lawton has responded to Bottom Line Communications regarding stories about the editing of Star sports columnist Jason Whitlock's columns and any perceived animosity between the two of them that may have led to her sudden resignation:


"No offense intended, but I haven't been reading the local blog coverage of my eventual departure from The Star, and as I now understand it, Bottom Line contains references to Jason's columns requiring a heavy hand of editing or being completely written or rewritten by others.

"As all of Jason’s editors, past and present, can attest: Jason’s column is his alone. Everyone gets edited occasionally, but what you see in the paper is his writing, his ideas and his voice. He has become one of America’s best columnists on his own merits. No other staff "insiders" could speak to this.
"Finally, the conversation about any perceived personal battle between Jason and me is also utterly ridiculous.


This email may be posted. Thanks.


Holly Lawton

http://www.bottomlinecom.com/kcnews/...nresponds.html
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Old 08-02-2010, 04:57 PM   #9
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Who in the KC radio or print media would you consider good at their jobs in comparison to their counterparts in other cities?
Whitlock is. He just pisses off the true fans too much.
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