Chiefs Someone review Tyson Jackson and rest of Dline. - Page 2

googlegoogle · 08-21-2010, 09:37 PM

Len and Mitch said the Dline looked good.

**notorious** · 08-22-2010, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

So you're pissed that a 300 pound guy can't catch a 200 pound guy from behind?

No, that he can't figure out an angle to push him to the sideline.

You know, High School fundamentals.

**petegz28** · 08-22-2010, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

No, that he can't figure out an angle to push him to the sideline.

You know, High School fundamentals.

He had an angel. Not the best I agree but the QB was going to gain yards one way or the other. If TJ would have ran sidways the QB would have cut inside. The guy prevented the bootleg which is more than what I can say about our recent defenses.

**notorious** · 08-22-2010, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

He had an angel. Not the best I agree but the QB was going to gain yards one way or the other. If TJ would have ran sidways the QB would have cut inside. The guy prevented the bootleg which is more than what I can say about our recent defenses.

Your opinion vs. mine. I will leave it at that.

milkman · 08-22-2010, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

He had an angel. Not the best I agree but the QB was going to gain yards one way or the other. If TJ would have ran sidways the QB would have cut inside. The guy prevented the bootleg which is more than what I can say about our recent defenses.

It wasn't Clarence, was it?

**petegz28** · 08-22-2010, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

It wasn't Clarence, was it?

meh, touche on being the spelling nazi....

rambleonthruthefog · 08-22-2010, 10:07 AM

he took a shit angle and let the QB get positive yards. no one expects him to catch freeman from behind, except maybe tjax. we do expect basic fundamentals, which he failed to show on that play. there are 10yr olds on my daughters soccer team that pursue better than that. after that play i thought to myself, the drafterbaters are right, this guy sucks.

Coach · 08-22-2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BTAU

To be fair, Josh Johnson ran a 4.44 40 at the combine a few years ago. He's not a slow guy. I'm not saying he played well, but it would have been an amazing play if he had caught the QB.

40 time is somewhat irrevelent if you know how to take a proper angle. Jackson WENT towards him, and got his ass toasted.

Have Jackson shadowed him, or pursuit him at the same direction, not towards him, but parallel towards the sidelines, it would not have been a big gain.

Coach · 08-22-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by rambleonthruthefog

he took a shit angle and let the QB get positive yards. no one expects him to catch freeman from behind, except maybe tjax. we do expect basic fundamentals, which he failed to show on that play. there are 10yr olds on my daughters soccer team that pursue better than that. after that play i thought to myself, the drafterbaters are right, this guy sucks.

It wasn't Josh Freeman. It was Josh Johnson.

chiefzilla1501 · 08-22-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tyton75

One thing I seemed to notice a LOT last night was that our DLine seems really slow off the snap.. like the ball is snapped and it takes them a second to realize it was snapped before they start moving forward.

Was trying to figure out of thats a 3-4 defensive line thing.. or just freaking slow!

I don't know if this is totally correct, but I think a lot of that is a 3-4 thing. In a 4-3, your instinct is to attack the backfield unless the play is designed otherwise. In a 3-4 at 5-technique, you have to read the play first and decide which gap you're going to attack. I think for the D-line, it's a lot more read and react. I don't know if that's a reason--it's something I noticed too.

FloridaMan88 · 08-22-2010, 10:44 AM

Let's start hearing the pathetic apologists on this board start to belch out there usual bullshit in defense of T-Jack...

"A 3-4 DE isn't supposed to make an obvious impact"... "It takes 75 years for a college defensive lineman to fully understand how to play the position in the NFL"... BLAH BLAH BLAH.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-22-2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Let's start hearing the pathetic apologists on this board start to belch out there usual bullshit in defense of T-Jack...

"A 3-4 DE isn't supposed to make an obvious impact"... "It takes 75 years for a college defensive lineman to fully understand how to play the position in the NFL"... BLAH BLAH BLAH.

99 percent of this board despises him. You act like you are some kind of crusader against the Tyson Jackson movement or something.

FloridaMan88 · 08-22-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM

99 percent of this board despises him. You act like you are some kind of crusader against the Tyson Jackson movement or something.

Wrong.

T-Jack's game was at this same shitty level last year when several elements of this board were DEFENDING him.

KCUnited · 08-22-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Wrong.

T-Jack's game was at this same shitty level last year when several elements of this board were DEFENDING him.

It took him 7 games last year to record a multi tackle game, he was credited with 2 last night. Let the man have his moment.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-22-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Wrong.

T-Jack's game was at this same shitty level last year when several elements of this board were DEFENDING him.

How dare someone stick up for a player in thier rookie year. The nerve of someone on a Chief board sticking up for a KC player. The problem is, he hasn't appeared to show any growth. He'll never reach the value of his pick, but he's still expected to improve and become a contributer.

Saccopoo · 08-22-2010, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Let's start hearing the pathetic apologists on this board start to belch out there usual bullshit in defense of Glenn Dorsey...

"A 3-4 DE isn't supposed to make an obvious impact"... "It takes 75 years for a college defensive lineman to fully understand how to play the position in the NFL"... BLAH BLAH BLAH.

FYP

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