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Old 08-29-2010, 01:17 PM   #1
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hypocrite? I know I didn't want Cassel here in the first place so at this point I am willing to try anything.
So who do you WANT? Seriously Lienart is not better than Cassel. People that keep bitching forget that if All Pro QB's grew on trees every team would have one.

Lienart got benched for Derick Anderson for a reason and it's not because Anderson is good
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Old 08-29-2010, 01:21 PM   #2
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So who do you WANT? Seriously Lienart is not better than Cassel. People that keep bitching forget that if All Pro QB's grew on trees every team would have one.

Lienart got benched for Derick Anderson for a reason and it's not because Anderson is good
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I don't give a crap if he is better or not. He at least isn't afraid to throw beyond 5 yard patterns. I never said he was the answer but look at our QB options for christ sake. No depth and no options.
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Old 08-29-2010, 01:24 PM   #3
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We've been reduced to arguing for better stopgaps.
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Old 08-29-2010, 01:26 PM   #4
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We've been reduced to arguing for better stopgaps.
Unfortunately yes.
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Old 08-29-2010, 01:29 PM   #5
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We've been reduced to arguing for better stopgaps.
See post #23.
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Old 08-29-2010, 01:31 PM   #6
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See post #23.
I understand what you're saying, but my take is this: Cassel is a pussy who does not handle criticism or adversity well. Thus, even if we draft a QB , we'll need another stopgap starter to groom him.
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Old 08-29-2010, 01:25 PM   #7
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I don't give a crap if he is better or not. He at least isn't afraid to throw beyond 5 yard patterns. I never said he was the answer but look at our QB options for christ sake. No depth and no options.
If you want to bring him in as a back up fine but his arm beyond 5 yards is no better than Cassel's.The problem is he thinks it is.
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Old 08-29-2010, 01:37 PM   #8
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So who do you WANT? Seriously Lienart is not better than Cassel. People that keep bitching forget that if All Pro QB's grew on trees every team would have one.

Lienart got benched for Derick Anderson for a reason and it's not because Anderson is good
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Actually, he got benched because Ken Whisenhunt is stubborn. He doesn't think Leinart is a fit for his system which he refuses to alter so he's basically reacting with "yea **** him I didn't pick him". Just more typical coach married to system bullshit.

Leinart isn't a fit here either, he's a WCO QB through and through, he's doesn't have Cassel's accuracy problems he just doesn't have the natural arm strength to zip out passes.

And for that other post, Leinart doesn't think he has a great arm, he's trying to make those throws because the coach gives him those plays. What should he do call T/O go over to Whisenhunt and tell him "Hey reerun you know I can't make that throw why are you giving me this play are you a ****tard?"
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Old 08-29-2010, 01:41 PM   #9
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Actually, he got benched because Ken Whisenhunt is stubborn. He doesn't think Leinart is a fit for his system which he refuses to alter so he's basically reacting with "yea **** him I didn't pick him". Just more typical coach married to system bullshit.

Leinart isn't a fit here either, he's a WCO QB through and through, he's doesn't have Cassel's accuracy problems he just doesn't have the natural arm strength to zip out passes.

And for that other post, Leinart doesn't think he has a great arm, he's trying to make those throws because the coach gives him those plays. What should he do call T/O go over to Whisenhunt and tell him "Hey reerun you know I can't make that throw why are you giving me this play are you a ****tard?"
That would be damn funny to watch.
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Old 08-29-2010, 01:45 PM   #10
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Actually, he got benched because Ken Whisenhunt is stubborn. He doesn't think Leinart is a fit for his system which he refuses to alter so he's basically reacting with "yea **** him I didn't pick him". Just more typical coach married to system bullshit.

Leinart isn't a fit here either, he's a WCO QB through and through, he's doesn't have Cassel's accuracy problems he just doesn't have the natural arm strength to zip out passes.

And for that other post, Leinart doesn't think he has a great arm, he's trying to make those throws because the coach gives him those plays. What should he do call T/O go over to Whisenhunt and tell him "Hey reerun you know I can't make that throw why are you giving me this play are you a ****tard?"
Look, if he was any good they would change what they are doing to fit his style of play. He sucks, therefore they are going another direction.You think the coaches are more oblivious to his skill set than you? Seriously? You are basically saying they tried to give him the starting job knowing he couldn't do it because of the offense they run while knowing he would be bad ass in a West Coast Offense. Give me a ****ing break.

Making excuses for the fact he sucks, and will always suck, is like people here making excuses for Chiefs players and that don't fly so why should your excuses fly?
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Old 08-29-2010, 01:50 PM   #11
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Why? KC in AFC West. Arizona in NFC West. Seattle in NFC West. KC makes more sense than Seattle if Arizona were to trade him.
I think that if you are willing to get rid of a player, that you drafted in the first round, because he sucks then I don't think you care where he goes. You just get as much compensation for him as you can and move on. I would think that Carroll is more likely to pay up for him than anyone. We aren't likely to trade for him in any scenario that I can even remotely imagine.
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Leinart isn't a fit here either, he's a WCO QB through and through, he's doesn't have Cassel's accuracy problems he just doesn't have the natural arm strength to zip out passes.
I watched the Cards/Bears game. I'm not well versed in all the plays of every offense, but Leinart threw the ball very well. Most passes were not real long throws, but a couple were 10 to 12 yards down field and right on the money. Those types of throws... which we throw as well... would be somewhat reminicant of the WCO, would they not? Plus he looked smooth and confident running the offense, which Cassel does not at all IMO.
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