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Ralphy Boy · 08-29-2010, 03:39 PM

The Sheffield injury was awful, but I thought it was very cool to see the players go out on the field in prayer. In our culture and media today we seldom see religious expression and I was rather proud to see my favorite team, in a sport I love so much, do this.

I couldn't help but wonder if an injury occured on a movie set whether the cast and crew would have done the same.

Very happy to see that he is alright.

Chiefs Rool · 08-29-2010, 03:43 PM

it was very nice to see indeed. I said a prayer myself and our prayers were answered because he got out of the hospital with no life changing injuries, which was the most important thing.

**Dave Lane** · 08-29-2010, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

The Sheffield injury was awful, but I thought it was very cool to see the players go out on the field in prayer. In our culture and media today we seldom see religious expression and I was rather proud to see my favorite team, in a sport I love so much, do this.

I couldn't help but wonder if an injury occured on a movie set whether the cast and crew would have done the same.

Very happy to see that he is alright.

I thought it was a nice gesture of respect. Obviously there is zero value in the actual prayer mechanism, but it was a nice show of respect for a fallen brother.

Ralphy Boy · 08-29-2010, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

I thought it was a nice gesture of respect. Obviously there is zero value in the actual prayer mechanism, but it was a nice show of respect for a fallen brother.

Obviously?

CaliforniaChief · 08-29-2010, 03:49 PM

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Obviously?

Yeah, I had the same thought as you. Certainly there's room for diverse opinions, but to say that prayer doesn't work or have an effect on circumstances is a bit narrow-minded, IMO.

**Dave Lane** · 08-29-2010, 04:16 PM

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Yeah, I had the same thought as you. Certainly there's room for diverse opinions, but to say that prayer doesn't work or have an effect on circumstances is a bit narrow-minded, IMO.

How do you figure prayer works? If 300,000,000 catholics pray for the pope to get better and he dies, how do you figure it functions in anyway other than psychologically?

FAX · 08-29-2010, 08:47 PM

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How do you figure prayer works? If 300,000,000 catholics pray for the pope to get better and he dies, how do you figure it functions in anyway other than psychologically?

There have been a few studies done, Mr. Dave Lane ... as I'm sure you're aware. A couple have been countered or debunked, of course, based on unscientific testing standards or lack or control groups or insufficient sampling or whatever. However, one of the most interesting ones was a blind prayer exercise for primates (sick monkeys, I think it was ... just going on memory here). Anyhow, a bunch of people prayed for certain of the monkeys and the control group remained ill or died poor little sad monkey deaths, but the "prayed-for" monkeys significantly improved. The idea was that the monkeys had no idea they were being prayed for ... unlike humans might.

Crazy.

FAX

KC native · 08-29-2010, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

I thought it was a nice gesture of respect. Obviously there is zero value in the actual prayer mechanism, but it was a nice show of respect for a fallen brother.

damn you, beat me to it.

Also, there is plenty of display of religion in public life. I don't know where you've been.

LocoChiefsFan · 08-29-2010, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

I thought it was a nice gesture of respect. Obviously there is zero value in the actual prayer mechanism, but it was a nice show of respect for a fallen brother.

This

Oucho Cinco · 08-29-2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

I thought it was a nice gesture of respect. Obviously there is zero value in the actual prayer mechanism, but it was a nice show of respect for a fallen brother.

Oh ye of little, or in your case no, faith.

Sannyasi · 08-29-2010, 04:02 PM

Here we go again

I don't know which are growing more tiresome, the obvious DC-baiting threads or the equally predictable responses

Deberg_1990 · 08-29-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

I couldn't help but wonder if an injury occured on a movie set whether the cast and crew would have done the same.

Nope....religion doesnt exist in any profession outside of sports.

mesmith31 · 08-29-2010, 04:17 PM

It is interesting that you would ask this, I was wondering the same thing. The entire team in 2 games now have had the auto-prayer button on after injuries. Lead by Wheaton College grad Studebaker.

It brings up a chicken and the egg question... with the retooling of the

they seem to be trying to get a new caliber of player starting with high character players (Jones, Vrabel, 5 team captains in the draft or whatever).

So, were they looking for more religious people as well, because they thought it equated with higher character? Or did that happen to get more religious players because they were looking for those with character (whatever the heck that means)?

Windcatcher · 08-29-2010, 04:17 PM

"If you believe you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer"
Mathew 21:22

CaliforniaChief · 08-29-2010, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Windcatcher

"If you believe you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer"
Mathew 21:22

Nice debut.

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

How do you figure prayer works? If 300,000,000 catholics pray for the pope to get better and he dies, how do you figure it functions in anyway other than psychologically?

I understand skepticism. I really do. Nor can I explain how it works. But there are enough stories of miracles and healings to say that it isn't valid or that God doesn't intervene in life.

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mesmith31 Starter Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: West Des Moines, Iowa Casino cash: $10005205	It is interesting that you would ask this, I was wondering the same thing. The entire team in 2 games now have had the auto-prayer button on after injuries. Lead by Wheaton College grad Studebaker. It brings up a chicken and the egg question... with the retooling of the they seem to be trying to get a new caliber of player starting with high character players (Jones, Vrabel, 5 team captains in the draft or whatever). So, were they looking for more religious people as well, because they thought it equated with higher character? Or did that happen to get more religious players because they were looking for those with character (whatever the heck that means)?
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