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Old 08-29-2010, 04:40 PM   #1
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I do know that Colquitt and Succop both love Jesus a lot.

So... prayer works in the kicking game maybe?
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:46 PM   #2
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I find some of the responses to the idea that prayer might actually work to be interesting.

People call Christians intolerant, ignorant, or closed-minded. And yet many who would use that label on Christians immediately close off to the idea that anything we believe is true.

I'm not the type who runs around preaching at people and being hyper-spiritual about life. But I also see a wealth of evidence of God's presence and power. So when I hear that Cameron Sheffield is working out at Arrowhead today, I personally believe God had something to do with that. Now, why he walks and other guys like Utley never do, I honestly don't know.

I'm just not quick to dismiss it.
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:48 PM   #3
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I find some of the responses to the idea that prayer might actually work to be interesting.

People call Christians intolerant, ignorant, or closed-minded. And yet many who would use that label on Christians immediately close off to the idea that anything we believe is true.

I'm not the type who runs around preaching at people and being hyper-spiritual about life. But I also see a wealth of evidence of God's presence and power. So when I hear that Cameron Sheffield is working out at Arrowhead today, I personally believe God had something to do with that. Now, why he walks and other guys like Utley never do, I honestly don't know.

I'm just not quick to dismiss it.
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Old 08-29-2010, 05:04 PM   #4
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People call Christians intolerant, ignorant, or closed-minded. And yet many who would use that label on Christians immediately close off to the idea that anything we believe is true.
I'm sure a lot of non-believers are raised going to Sunday school each week, so they aren't going to be immediately closed off to those ideas. Since I was one of those people, it would have been much easier for me to continue believing than to go against what family and others had been telling me for the first 15-20 years of my life. Saying non-believers are immediately closed off to the supposed power of prayer and so forth is completely baseless.

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I personally believe God had something to do with that. Now, why he walks and other guys like Utley never do, I honestly don't know.
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Old 08-29-2010, 05:23 PM   #5
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I'm sure a lot of non-believers are raised going to Sunday school each week, so they aren't going to be immediately closed off to those ideas. Since I was one of those people, it would have been much easier for me to continue believing than to go against what family and others had been telling me for the first 15-20 years of my life. Saying non-believers are immediately closed off to the supposed power of prayer and so forth is completely baseless.
Ditto this completely.
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So when I hear that Cameron Sheffield is working out at Arrowhead today, I personally believe God had something to do with that. Now, why he walks and other guys like Utley never do, I honestly don't know.
Obvious answer: god is a black man.
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Old 08-29-2010, 05:11 PM   #7
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People call Christians intolerant, ignorant, or closed-minded. And yet many who would use that label on Christians immediately close off to the idea that anything we believe is true.
I think the difference is that a lot of people were raised in a religious environment, and later decided (IMO based on their level of education, no offense) that they simply didn't believe the fairytales. Then they spend the rest of their lives having religious people try to "save them". Meanwhile, the religious folk never make an attempt to understand, and perhaps its simply not possible for them.

I think I'm right in my beliefs, but will still take the time to listen and engage with an open mind, and if my mind changes over time, then so be it - I'm not scared of believing something new.

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But I also see a wealth of evidence of God's presence and power. So when I hear that Cameron Sheffield is working out at Arrowhead today, I personally believe God had something to do with that. Now, why he walks and other guys like Utley never do, I honestly don't know.

I'm just not quick to dismiss it.
You believe whatever works for you. I believe that its' all science and chance, no supreme power. But as long as you keep your preaching to yourself and don't judge me for mine, then that's all well and good.
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Now, why he walks and other guys like Utley never do, I honestly don't know.
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Religious expression in sports makes me want to shoot an automatic weapon into a crowd.
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Old 08-29-2010, 05:13 PM   #10
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Religious expression in sports makes me want to shoot an automatic weapon into a crowd.
I share your sentiments, but I'm not gonna go quite that far..........you may want to consider pumping the brakes a time or two.

Actually nice to see some analytical people that deal with reason and process thought like they have functioning brain. Well might have to check that..............it is Sunday night so the dumb ones are in church singing and holding hands right now. They'll be here soon enough to stupid this thread up a bit.

I too saw it as more of a sign of respect than it being a mass display of dumb carried out by 80 superstitious dummies.

I still like Glenn Parker's thoughts on sports and God/religion. It was right after some really good game we had when he was here. He told the story in an interview about how after the game one of his teammates came up and said to him something along the lines of "you can't tell me God didn't have some thing to do with that win" His comments were something like "yeah God blew off all the starving children and victims of war that day to come and watch over a bunch of millionaire athletes play a kid's game." My thoughts and commentary would be somewhere real close to his.
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I share your sentiments, but I'm not gonna go quite that far..........you may want to consider pumping the brakes a time or two.
Well, if we're going to do a drive-by, obviously I can unload more rounds if I'm going slower.
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Well, if we're going to do a drive-by, obviously I can unload more rounds if I'm going slower.
Yeah, yeah. You're as meek as a lamb.
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I share your sentiments, but I'm not gonna go quite that far..........you may want to consider pumping the brakes a time or two.

Actually nice to see some analytical people that deal with reason and process thought like they have functioning brain. Well might have to check that..............it is Sunday night so the dumb ones are in church singing and holding hands right now. They'll be here soon enough to stupid this thread up a bit.

I too saw it as more of a sign of respect than it being a mass display of dumb carried out by 80 superstitious dummies.

I still like Glenn Parker's thoughts on sports and God/religion. It was right after some really good game we had when he was here. He told the story in an interview about how after the game one of his teammates came up and said to him something along the lines of "you can't tell me God didn't have some thing to do with that win" His comments were something like "yeah God blew off all the starving children and victims of war that day to come and watch over a bunch of millionaire athletes play a kid's game." My thoughts and commentary would be somewhere real close to his.
I'm not a man of faith, but given that response by Parker in that situation, I would have told him that God is all powerful, thus the greatest multi-tasker ever.
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hopefully it just stays with the want to. prolly end up in a very bad place ifn you actually do it.
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hopefully it just stays with the want to. prolly end up in a very bad place ifn you actually do it.
I didn't specify which sort of crowd.

I was thinking...

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