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Spott · 08-29-2010, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Football is a violent sport filled with nasty individuals who sin frequently.

If the Christian god really exists, he hates football and does not answer the prayers of anyone associated with it.

I don't know if he hates football, but I'm pretty certain he hates the Chiefs.

Hammock Parties · 08-29-2010, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott

I don't know if he hates football, but I'm pretty certain he hates the Chiefs.

He hates Kansas City most of all, because man took a city in the middle of the bible belt and turned it into a culture of barbecue and football, where Sundays are reserved primarily for the worship of sport.

Kansas City, KS and Kansas City, MO are a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. If Carl Peterson and Marty Schottenheimer had turned back and looked at Arrowhead after they left, they would have been turned to pillars of salt.

milkman · 08-29-2010, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott

I don't know if he hates football, but I'm pretty certain he hates the Chiefs.

Well, yeah, he's God.

He's known for eons that his son would be a Donkey.

Ugly Duck · 08-29-2010, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Football is a violent sport filled with nasty individuals who sin frequently.

If the Christian god really exists, he hates football and does not answer the prayers of anyone associated with it.

He sez He's angry, vengeful & jealous.... and He commands you to kill unbelievers - you'd think He'd be a football fan fer sure!

Ralphy Boy · 08-29-2010, 06:13 PM

I really didn't intend to turn this into a debate. My religious views are not like most. I believe there is a God but he has given us free will, so we do stupid crap all the time like hopping into a car drunk, sleeping around on our spouses or stealing. We might get into a wreck and kill ourselves or someone else, we might get an STD or go to jail. How much prayer is going to help with any of those, I really don't know.

Religion and God are two very different things IMO. Religion has been used as an excuse for killing people for thousands of years, but it has also been the source of feeding and caring for millions. I've always thought and wrote a paper on it in a philosophy class, that the roots of modern religion were created by men with good intentions to create order/law in a world filled with chaos and to try to understand creation. That, in and of itself, doesn't mean that there isn't a higher power.
To me it means that simple humans trying to understand something that is beyond their comprehension is an almost impossible effort but that doesn't make the "trying" a waste of time.

"Do good unto others" is a pretty simple code to live by and pretty much covers the intent of the 10 commandments. People spending money that they don't have to pay for the Jim Bakker's of the world infuriates me to no end. I recently heard that the pastor of a well known Assembly of God church in the area makes $750,000 a year. That's absurd by any count. How can a pastor stand before a congregation and ask them to give money to a church when he is the biggest expense that church has?

I don't believe that we have God or religion figured out, but I do believe he exists and I'd rather live my life knowing there is something more than death at the end of this journey.

Hammock Parties · 08-29-2010, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

I believe there is a God but he has given us free will, so we do stupid crap all the time

GoHuge · 08-29-2010, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

I really didn't intend to turn this into a debate.

To me it means that simple humans trying to understand something that is beyond their comprehension is an almost impossible effort but that doesn't make the "trying" a waste of time.

No, but it's still stupid

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Nah you're good man. I am proud of The Lounge crowd because this conversation hasn't turned into the downward swirling toilet bowl that it would be in DC. See who says the commoners can't have a rational discussion with differing opinions?? Apparently we can as long as it doesn't have anything to do with Matt Cassel, Dayton Moore, treatment of n00bs, or KU, K-State, and Mizzou.

Ralphy Boy · 08-29-2010, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GoHuge39

No, but it's still stupid

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Nah you're good man. I am proud of The Lounge crowd because this conversation hasn't turned into the downward swirling toilet bowl that it would be in DC. See who says the commoners can't have a rational discussion with differing opinions?? Apparently we can as long as it doesn't have anything to do with Matt Cassel, Dayton Moore, treatment of n00bs, or KU, K-State, and Mizzou.

God knows I've said plenty of unanswered prayers for that one.

April 2009: Please God, let Matt Cassel be the savior of our franchise.
September 2009:Please God, give Matt someone who can catch.
October 2009: Please God, give Matt some protection on the offensive line.
November 2009: Please God don't let Matt throw another pick.
December 2009: Please God just don't let Matt lose the game for us.
April 2010: Please God let us draft Jimmy Clausen

Wow! I guess prayer really doesn't work.

Obviously I'm kidding. I don't think God could care less about how good of a QB Matt is and I'm quite certain he doesn't care how good the Chiefs are.

JD10367 · 08-29-2010, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

God knows I've said plenty of unanswered prayers for that one.

April 2009: Please God, let Matt Cassel be the savior of our franchise.
September 2009:Please God, give Matt someone who can catch.
October 2009: Please God, give Matt some protection on the offensive line.
November 2009: Please God don't let Matt throw another pick.
December 2009: Please God just don't let Matt lose the game for us.
April 2010: Please God let us draft Jimmy Clausen

Wow! I guess prayer really doesn't work.

Obviously I'm kidding. I don't think God could care less about how good of a QB Matt is and I'm quite certain he doesn't care how good the Chiefs are.

How DARE you think that YOUR prayer is so worthy that it overrules someone elses?!?

September 2008: Please God, let someone take Tom Brady out so I can start a ****ing game.
October 2008: Please God, let me play balls to the wall all year so I can impress the shit out of someone and make a ton of dough.
February 2009: Please God, let Scott Pioli get shitfaced and sign me to an obscene deal.

KC native · 08-29-2010, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GoHuge39

Well hey there's no harm in praying. After all what do you really risk? As long as you're not facing east and rocking back and forth humming and looking like you're having convulsions five times a day while facing a black rock that you're supposed to go and walk around like a herd of sheep once a year it doesn't bother me, but those ****ers you gotta keep an eye on...............well I guess that goes for any extremeist (regardless of belief system or ideology). Sorry I'm well aware this really wasn't the time or place for this rant, but after the things I studied this weekend and being with my brother for the last week (who works for the DOD and just got back from Afghanistan) I have a new found appreciation for how ****ed up those people are.

OK sorry again! Just needed to decompress. Rant over............moving along........nothing to see here.

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Originally Posted by GoHuge39

. I am proud of The Lounge crowd because this conversation hasn't turned into the downward swirling toilet bowl that it would be in DC. See who says the commoners can't have a rational discussion with differing opinions??

Yea, with the exception of your comments it has been a decent conversation. You are aware that Muslims are praying to the same dog er sorry god you are right?

Ugly Duck · 08-29-2010, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native

You are aware that Muslims are praying to the same dog er sorry god you are right?

But Muslims obey Allah when He commands that they kill nonbelievers. God has explicitly commanded us to kill nonbelievers, and in our conceit we reject His Word. God commands us to kill - we should KILL!

GoHuge · 08-30-2010, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KC native

Yea, with the exception of your comments it has been a decent conversation. You are aware that Muslims are praying to the same dog er sorry god you are right?

Which I apologized for at the end of my post and myself categorized it as a stupid rant. Chillax

The it's still stupid comment was ended with a just smile Smilie. Guess your sarcasm meter is down.

BigVE · 08-29-2010, 06:02 PM

It's interesting that this has popped up on a message board. I was thinking the same thing while watching the prayer huddle. I am a person of faith , although I may be a little "lost" or misguided. I was thinking this: isn't it pretty much a tradition to have a pre-game prayer? Did someone forget to pray for the safety and continued health of the other players? Was God preoccupied with something more important than a preseason football game and just didn't hear the prayer? OR, was that particular prayer actually answered since the player ended up being OK afterall?

I guess for me it was a nice gesture of respect for a fallen player at the moment but utterly useless in reality for the well being of the player. That's just me. Scripture says that "time and unforeseen occurrence befall us all"....good things happen to bad people and vice versa. It's possibly Gods way of saying "my bad...shit happens. Get over it."

GoHuge · 08-29-2010, 06:11 PM

Well hey there's no harm in praying. After all what do you really risk? As long as you're not facing east and rocking back and forth humming and looking like you're having convulsions five times a day while facing a black rock that you're supposed to go and walk around like a herd of sheep once a year it doesn't bother me, but those ****ers you gotta keep an eye on...............well I guess that goes for any extremeist (regardless of belief system or ideology). Sorry I'm well aware this really wasn't the time or place for this rant, but after the things I studied this weekend and being with my brother for the last week (who works for the DOD and just got back from Afghanistan) I have a new found appreciation for how ****ed up those people are.

OK sorry again! Just needed to decompress. Rant over............moving along........nothing to see here.

JD10367 · 08-29-2010, 06:41 PM

Seriously?

I don't know if there's a God, but I don't think He cares much what happens down here.

However, that doesn't mean I don't believe there might be something in the positive power of prayer, not only the effect it might have in the person praying but the effect it might have on a person being prayed for by a group. We only use around 10% of our brains. (Many of us, quite a bit less than that. Some, apparently, barely at all.) But who knows what the rest of it can do? I don't think anything's off the table--telekinesis, precognition, psychic powers, whatever--so who's to say people who truly believe in it can't focus positive energy through thought? Much like the general belief in God, if we can't disprove it as impossible, then anything's possible.

08-29-2010, 06:13 PM	#5
Ralphy Boy MVP Join Date: Aug 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	I really didn't intend to turn this into a debate. My religious views are not like most. I believe there is a God but he has given us free will, so we do stupid crap all the time like hopping into a car drunk, sleeping around on our spouses or stealing. We might get into a wreck and kill ourselves or someone else, we might get an STD or go to jail. How much prayer is going to help with any of those, I really don't know. Religion and God are two very different things IMO. Religion has been used as an excuse for killing people for thousands of years, but it has also been the source of feeding and caring for millions. I've always thought and wrote a paper on it in a philosophy class, that the roots of modern religion were created by men with good intentions to create order/law in a world filled with chaos and to try to understand creation. That, in and of itself, doesn't mean that there isn't a higher power. To me it means that simple humans trying to understand something that is beyond their comprehension is an almost impossible effort but that doesn't make the "trying" a waste of time. "Do good unto others" is a pretty simple code to live by and pretty much covers the intent of the 10 commandments. People spending money that they don't have to pay for the Jim Bakker's of the world infuriates me to no end. I recently heard that the pastor of a well known Assembly of God church in the area makes $750,000 a year. That's absurd by any count. How can a pastor stand before a congregation and ask them to give money to a church when he is the biggest expense that church has? I don't believe that we have God or religion figured out, but I do believe he exists and I'd rather live my life knowing there is something more than death at the end of this journey.
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08-29-2010, 06:02 PM	#13
BigVE Veteran Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: centralKs Casino cash: $10005250	It's interesting that this has popped up on a message board. I was thinking the same thing while watching the prayer huddle. I am a person of faith , although I may be a little "lost" or misguided. I was thinking this: isn't it pretty much a tradition to have a pre-game prayer? Did someone forget to pray for the safety and continued health of the other players? Was God preoccupied with something more important than a preseason football game and just didn't hear the prayer? OR, was that particular prayer actually answered since the player ended up being OK afterall? I guess for me it was a nice gesture of respect for a fallen player at the moment but utterly useless in reality for the well being of the player. That's just me. Scripture says that "time and unforeseen occurrence befall us all"....good things happen to bad people and vice versa. It's possibly Gods way of saying "my bad...shit happens. Get over it." __________________ Meh.
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08-29-2010, 06:11 PM	#14
GoHuge The Truth Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10006072	Well hey there's no harm in praying. After all what do you really risk? As long as you're not facing east and rocking back and forth humming and looking like you're having convulsions five times a day while facing a black rock that you're supposed to go and walk around like a herd of sheep once a year it doesn't bother me, but those **ers you gotta keep an eye on...............well I guess that goes for any extremeist (regardless of belief system or ideology). Sorry I'm well aware this really wasn't the time or place for this rant, but after the things I studied this weekend and being with my brother for the last week (who works for the DOD and just got back from Afghanistan) I have a new found appreciation for how **ed up those people are. OK sorry again! Just needed to decompress. Rant over............moving along........nothing to see here.
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08-29-2010, 06:41 PM	#15
JD10367 Cheaterlover* Join Date: May 2009 Location: RI Casino cash: $10010716	Seriously? I don't know if there's a God, but I don't think He cares much what happens down here. However, that doesn't mean I don't believe there might be something in the positive power of prayer, not only the effect it might have in the person praying but the effect it might have on a person being prayed for by a group. We only use around 10% of our brains. (Many of us, quite a bit less than that. Some, apparently, barely at all.) But who knows what the rest of it can do? I don't think anything's off the table--telekinesis, precognition, psychic powers, whatever--so who's to say people who truly believe in it can't focus positive energy through thought? Much like the general belief in God, if we can't disprove it as impossible, then anything's possible.
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