Chiefs Wins and losses ... you make the call - Page 5

Mr. Laz · 08-30-2010, 02:45 PM

predict the wins,losses and record

Wk	Date	Game	Stadium	Time (ET)
1	Sep 13	SD @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	10:15 PM
2	Sep 19	KC @ CLE	Cleveland Browns Stadium	1:00 PM
3	Sep 26	SF @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
4	Bye
5	Oct 10	KC @ IND	Lucas Oil Stadium	1:00 PM
6	Oct 17	KC @ HOU	Reliant Stadium	1:00 PM
7	Oct 24	JAC @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
8	Oct 31	BUF @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
9	Nov 07	KC @ OAK	Oakland Coliseum	4:15 PM
10	Nov 14	KC @ DEN	Invesco Field at Mile High	4:05 PM
11	Nov 21	ARI @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
12	Nov 28	KC @ SEA	Qwest Field	4:05 PM
13	Dec 05	DEN @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
14	Dec 12	KC @ SD	Qualcomm Stadium	4:15 PM
15	Dec 19	KC @ STL	Edward Jones Dome	1:00 PM
16	Dec 26	TEN @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
17	Jan 02	OAK @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM

RedThat · 08-30-2010, 04:28 PM

Wk Date Game
1 Sep 13 SD @ KC L
2 Sep 19 KC @ CLE W
3 Sep 26 SF @ KC L
4 Bye
5 Oct 10 KC @ IND L
6 Oct 17 KC @ HOU L
7 Oct 24 JAC @ KC L
8 Oct 31 BUF @ KC L
9 Nov 07 KC @ OAK W
10 Nov 14 KC @ DEN L
11 Nov 21 ARI @ KC W
12 Nov 28 KC @ SEA L
13 Dec 05 DEN @ KC W
14 Dec 12 KC @ SD L
15 Dec 19 KC @ STL W
16 Dec 26 TEN @ KC L
17 Jan 02 OAK @ KC W

6-10

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-30-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Quite a bit, actually. Magee/Gilberry were getting absolutely manhandled that game. Bringing Dorsey back will help considerably. Berry at Strong Safety is going to help us significantly, particularly in limiting the big play. The playcalling will be a lot better (don't know how good Romeo is, but it's a clear upgrade over Pendergast) and we'll at least make adjustments that keep us from getting gashed from the same play repeatedly.

I still have this as a loss, though, because the Browns can pass the ball this year and I think they have a decent defense. They're going to be better than a lot of people think.

I'm so sick of hearing the Dorsey excuse.

You conveniently forget the rush totals against us when Dorsey WAS in the lineup:

198 to Baltimore
156 to the Giants
150 to Dallas
118 to Washington
135 to San Diego
173 to Jacksonville
182 to Oakland
114 to Pittsburgh
245 to Denver
200 to Buffalo
144 to Cincinnati

FlaChief58 · 08-30-2010, 04:29 PM

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Question mark the jag game, could go either way. Based on that, best case 8-8 to 9-7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

predict the wins,losses and record

Wk	Date	Game	Stadium	Time (ET)
1	Sep 13	SD @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	10:15 PM
2	Sep 19	KC @ CLE	Cleveland Browns Stadium	1:00 PM
3	Sep 26	SF @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
4	Bye
5	Oct 10	KC @ IND	Lucas Oil Stadium	1:00 PM
6	Oct 17	KC @ HOU	Reliant Stadium	1:00 PM
7	Oct 24	JAC @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
8	Oct 31	BUF @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
9	Nov 07	KC @ OAK	Oakland Coliseum	4:15 PM
10	Nov 14	KC @ DEN	Invesco Field at Mile High	4:05 PM
11	Nov 21	ARI @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
12	Nov 28	KC @ SEA	Qwest Field	4:05 PM
13	Dec 05	DEN @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
14	Dec 12	KC @ SD	Qualcomm Stadium	4:15 PM
15	Dec 19	KC @ STL	Edward Jones Dome	1:00 PM
16	Dec 26	TEN @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
17	Jan 02	OAK @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM

Titty Meat · 08-30-2010, 04:29 PM

1 Sep 13 SD @ KC Loss
2 Sep 19 KC @ CLE Loss
3 Sep 26 SF @ KC Win
4 Bye

5 Oct 10 KC @ IND Loss
6 Oct 17 KC @ HOU Loss
7 Oct 24 JAC @ KC Loss
8 Oct 31 BUF @ KC Win
9 Nov 07 KC @ OAK Win
10 Nov 14 KC @ DEN Loss
11 Nov 21 ARI @ KC Loss
12 Nov 28 KC @ SEA Win
13 Dec 05 DEN @ KC Win
14 Dec 12 KC @ SD Loss
15 Dec 19 KC @ STL Loss
16 Dec 26 TEN @ KC Loss
17 Jan 02 OAK @ KC Win

Doubtful they sweep Oakland you could replace 1 of the wins vs Okaland and with Arizona. 6-10.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-30-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Flachief58

Question mark the jag game, could go either way. Based on that, best case 8-8 to 9-7

Crack is a helluva drug

-King- · 08-30-2010, 04:30 PM

**** it. We're going winless. Every runningback is going to rush for 300 against us.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-30-2010, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Why not? How has the Chiefs front seven improved to the point where they won't be giving up a massive amount of rushing yardage?

Has Cleveland not improved their squad, either?

No, Dane. Only the Chiefs were allowed to "improve" this offseason

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Chiefs don't have a shot in hell to beat the Steelers with a healthy Polamalu (who didn't play that day) or a healthy Roethlisberger.

QFT, though Ben didn't get hurt until late. They just didn't play anywhere near their potential that day, and missing Troy surely didn't help.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-30-2010, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

**** it. We're going winless. Every runningback is going to rush for 300 against us.

Considering that four teams last year put up more than 200 yards on the ground and given the fact that the Chiefs did nothing to address that fact, you may be very surprised at how many games they lose this year to teams that can run the ball effectively.

Hence a possible 1-7 start.

Titty Meat · 08-30-2010, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Considering that four teams last year put up more than 200 yards on the ground and given the fact that the Chiefs did nothing to address that fact, you may be very surprised at how many games their lose this year to teams that can run the ball.

Indeed this team was a franchise NT or QB away from being an 8-8 or 9-7 team this year. Guess we'll have something to hang our hat on

-King- · 08-30-2010, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Considering that four teams last year put up more than 200 yards on the ground and given the fact that the Chiefs did nothing to address that fact, you may be very surprised at how many games they lose this year to teams that can run the ball effectively.

Hence a possible 1-7 start.

Wanna bet on it?

All your money vs mine.

chiefzilla1501 · 08-30-2010, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well, this a part of the problem for the Chiefs, probably their second biggest problem behind QB: They have no depth. They don't have a legit NT and their DE's are average on a good day and well below average on a normal day.

Hali is a liability against run, as is DJ. This team will routinely give up HUGE rushing yardage this season because they just cannot stop anyone on the ground.

Depth is undoubtedly a big problem. But better than last year? Yeah. Shaun Smith is better depth than having nobody (how a team goes through an entire half of a season without a backup NT is headscratching). Gilberry is emerging as a pretty dangerous pass specialist. We will likely have better depth in our secondary by allowing Arenas to match up against slot receivers. And you would hope that this season, you'll start to see Studebaker become featured in a lot more pass plays (or just in general).

I don't think we'll routinely give up big yards. Our biggest problem last year was giving up the big play and I think we'll cut those down significantly. Apart from that ****-up on the McCoy 18-yard run, I thought it was one of the most disciplined games I've seen in a long time with our D-line. They finally were starting to get their gap assignments right, even if they weren't getting a ton of push. That to me, more than anything, was a major reason we were finally getting pressure on the QB when we chose to blitz.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-30-2010, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay

Indeed this team was a franchise NT or QB away from being an 8-8 or 9-7 team this year. Guess we'll have something to hang our hat on

Had they taken Daryl Washington (who's flashing in Arizona) and Cody in R2, I have no doubts they would have won 8 or more games, even with Cassel as the QB.

keg in kc · 08-30-2010, 04:38 PM

Wk1: SD @ KC - win
Wk2: KC @ CLE - loss
Wk3: SF @ KC - win
Wk4: BYE
Wk5: KC @ IND - loss
Wk6: KC @ HOU - loss
Wk7: JAC @ KC - win
Wk8: BUF @ KC - win
Wk9: KC @ OAK - win
Wk10: KC @ DEN - win
Wk11: ARI @ KC - win
Wk12: KC @ SEA - loss
Wk13: DEN @ KC - win
Wk14: KC @ SD - loss
Wk15: KC @ STL - loss
Wk16: TEN @ KC - loss
Wk17: OAK @ KC - win

8-8. About where I expect. Most of their wins will have to come at home. I don't see many winnable road games. Think their lower limit for the season is 6-10, their upper 9-7.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-30-2010, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Depth is undoubtedly a big problem. But better than last year? Yeah. Shaun Smith is better depth than having nobody (how a team goes through an entire half of a season without a backup NT is headscratching). Gilberry is emerging as a pretty dangerous pass specialist. We will likely have better depth in our secondary by allowing Arenas to match up against slot receivers. And you would hope that this season, you'll start to see Studebaker become featured in a lot more pass plays (or just in general).

I don't think we'll routinely give up big yards. Our biggest problem last year was giving up the big play and I think we'll cut those down significantly. Apart from that ****-up on the McCoy 18-yard run, I thought it was one of the most disciplined games I've seen in a long time with our D-line. They finally were starting to get their gap assignments right, even if they weren't getting a ton of push. That to me, more than anything, was a major reason we were finally getting pressure on the QB when we chose to blitz.

Sorry, I don't see and I don't agree. This defense, featuring FOUR number one draft choices, is ****ing awful. AWFUL. They have no legitimate, consistent pass rushers, NO legit NT's, weak DE's and no depth.

Teams like Cleveland, San Diego, San Fran, Houston and Jacksonville will pummel the Chiefs with their running games. Indy won't need to pummel them because the slow defense will be so exhausted by the fourth quarter from trying to get to Peyton Manning all day that it should be an easy win for them.

chiefzilla1501 · 08-30-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Had they taken Daryl Washington (who's flashing in Arizona) and Cody in R2, I have no doubts they would have won 8 or more games, even with Cassel as the QB.

I will take a playmaker over a 3-4 ILB any day of the week.

Neither of these guys were going to make the CHiefs an 8-win team. Especially not Washington.

08-30-2010, 04:28 PM	#61
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	Wk Date Game 1 Sep 13 SD @ KC L 2 Sep 19 KC @ CLE W 3 Sep 26 SF @ KC L 4 Bye 5 Oct 10 KC @ IND L 6 Oct 17 KC @ HOU L 7 Oct 24 JAC @ KC L 8 Oct 31 BUF @ KC L 9 Nov 07 KC @ OAK W 10 Nov 14 KC @ DEN L 11 Nov 21 ARI @ KC W 12 Nov 28 KC @ SEA L 13 Dec 05 DEN @ KC W 14 Dec 12 KC @ SD L 15 Dec 19 KC @ STL W 16 Dec 26 TEN @ KC L 17 Jan 02 OAK @ KC W 6-10
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08-30-2010, 04:29 PM	#64
Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $-1172442	1 Sep 13 SD @ KC Loss 2 Sep 19 KC @ CLE Loss 3 Sep 26 SF @ KC Win 4 Bye 5 Oct 10 KC @ IND Loss 6 Oct 17 KC @ HOU Loss 7 Oct 24 JAC @ KC Loss 8 Oct 31 BUF @ KC Win 9 Nov 07 KC @ OAK Win 10 Nov 14 KC @ DEN Loss 11 Nov 21 ARI @ KC Loss 12 Nov 28 KC @ SEA Win 13 Dec 05 DEN @ KC Win 14 Dec 12 KC @ SD Loss 15 Dec 19 KC @ STL Loss 16 Dec 26 TEN @ KC Loss 17 Jan 02 OAK @ KC Win Doubtful they sweep Oakland you could replace 1 of the wins vs Okaland and with Arizona. 6-10.
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08-30-2010, 04:38 PM	#73
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Wk1: SD @ KC - win Wk2: KC @ CLE - loss Wk3: SF @ KC - win Wk4: BYE Wk5: KC @ IND - loss Wk6: KC @ HOU - loss Wk7: JAC @ KC - win Wk8: BUF @ KC - win Wk9: KC @ OAK - win Wk10: KC @ DEN - win Wk11: ARI @ KC - win Wk12: KC @ SEA - loss Wk13: DEN @ KC - win Wk14: KC @ SD - loss Wk15: KC @ STL - loss Wk16: TEN @ KC - loss Wk17: OAK @ KC - win 8-8. About where I expect. Most of their wins will have to come at home. I don't see many winnable road games. Think their lower limit for the season is 6-10, their upper 9-7.
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