Wins and losses ... you make the call

[Mr. Laz]

predict the wins,losses and record

Wk	Date	Game	Stadium	Time (ET)
1	Sep 13	SD @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	10:15 PM
2	Sep 19	KC @ CLE	Cleveland Browns Stadium	1:00 PM
3	Sep 26	SF @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
4	Bye
5	Oct 10	KC @ IND	Lucas Oil Stadium	1:00 PM
6	Oct 17	KC @ HOU	Reliant Stadium	1:00 PM
7	Oct 24	JAC @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
8	Oct 31	BUF @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
9	Nov 07	KC @ OAK	Oakland Coliseum	4:15 PM
10	Nov 14	KC @ DEN	Invesco Field at Mile High	4:05 PM
11	Nov 21	ARI @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
12	Nov 28	KC @ SEA	Qwest Field	4:05 PM
13	Dec 05	DEN @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
14	Dec 12	KC @ SD	Qualcomm Stadium	4:15 PM
15	Dec 19	KC @ STL	Edward Jones Dome	1:00 PM
16	Dec 26	TEN @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
17	Jan 02	OAK @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I said it then and I'll say it now, when your a team that lacks foundation pieces, like you know an entire front 7, using 2nd round picks to take role players is extremely shortsighted.

It's like putting a really nice stereo in your car that's worth 300 dollars that needs a new axle and engine.

1. You don't draft for need
2. You draft playmakers

Any argument otherwise is moving the uprights from EVERYTHING we heard EVERYBODY say before the draft. You're suggesting a strategy where the only guys we look at are 3 positions.

[Mecca]

After what I've seen this preseason...4-12 they look exactly the same.

[ChiefsCountry]

Chargers L
@Browns L
49ers L
@Colts L
@Texans L
Jaguars L
Bills W
@Raiders L
@Broncos L
Cardinals W
@Seahawks L
Broncos W
@Chargers L
@Rams W
Titans L
Raiders L

4-12

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

1. You don't draft for need
2. You draft playmakers

Any argument otherwise is moving the uprights from EVERYTHING we heard EVERYBODY say before the draft. You're suggesting a strategy where the only guys we look at are 3 positions.

Yea usually those arguments hinge around STARTERS, these guys we drafted are never going to be a 1st or 2nd WR or first or second CB.

Also listening to them act like kick returner was the biggest need on the team we should all be scared.

But lets call a spade a spade, that draft was about trying to make Matt Cassel look like he's not an epic **** up, Get him a guy to run little routes even though teams will sit on it mixed with a returner to give him field position since he can't lead drives because he throws it 3 yards.

Personally it makes my day to know we have to draft players because our GM doesn't want to look stupid for trading for an inept QB.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

1. You don't draft for need

What if your team needs everything?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What if your team needs everything?

That is exactly the point.

You draft the guy you think is BPA. You don't walk into the second round limiting yourself to an ILB, OLB, or a NT only because you need them. And you most certainly, unlike OTW, make the ridiculous claim that a team that needs EVERYthing (like the Chiefs) is going to magically become better than .500 because of two second round players.

[Mecca]

When your team needs everything and you draft guys that are slot receivers and nickel CBs which makes them role players and not starters, what's that say?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea usually those arguments hinge around STARTERS, these guys we drafted are never going to be a 1st or 2nd WR or first or second CB.

Also listening to them act like kick returner was the biggest need on the team we should all be scared.

But lets call a spade a spade, that draft was about trying to make Matt Cassel look like he's not an epic **** up, Get him a guy to run little routes even though teams will sit on it mixed with a returner to give him field position since he can't lead drives because he throws it 3 yards.

Personally it makes my day to know we have to draft players because our GM doesn't want to look stupid for trading for an inept QB.

That is pretty comical that you actually think the Chiefs drafted a Returner only to protect Cassel.

Or that the Chiefs drafting McCluster maybe, just MAYBE, may have more to do with Charlie Weis than it does with Matt Cassel.

But of course, this organization is so blindsided by their love for Matt Cassel that they're going to shower him with players to help him succeed. That's why they drafted Eric Berry to play Left Tackle for him with the first pick in the draft.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

That is exactly the point.

You draft the guy you think is BPA. You don't walk into the second round limiting yourself to an ILB, OLB, or a NT only because you need them. And you most certainly, unlike OTW, make the ridiculous claim that a team that needs EVERYthing (like the Chiefs) is going to magically become better than .500 because of two second round players.

Arenas will have plenty of time to prove me wrong but I don't think there's a chance in hell that he was THE best player available at 2b.

Not even close.

[O.city]

I could see this team maybe 8-8 , we were actually in games last year we should have won so like was said in a previous post if our defense could be middle of the pack. Actually went to the game Friday night (needing a little break from dental school) and Cassel actually threw a pretty good ball surprisingly. I really believe that they just aren't throwing any or for that fact running many deep patterns. just so happened when they did there was not any protection or the Eagles had a blitz called. ( their blitz schemes are prob. the best in the league..) just my insight

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Mecca

When your team needs everything and you draft guys that are slot receivers and nickel CBs which makes them role players and not starters, what's that say?

The fact that you think that McCluster is going to be some run-of-the-mill slot receiver is obvious proof that you had your mind made up on McCluster before he took a preseason snap.

[Chiefs Rool]

1 Sep 13 SD @ KC Loss, 17-24
2 Sep 19 KC @ CLE Win, 31-7
3 Sep 26 SF @ KC Win, 14-10
4 Bye
5 Oct 10 KC @ IND Loss, 10-38
6 Oct 17 KC @ HOU Loss, 10-31
7 Oct 24 JAC @ KC Win, 31-24
8 Oct 31 BUF @ KC Win, 20-13
9 Nov 07 KC @ OAK Win, 21-17
10 Nov 14 KC @ DEN Loss, 14-24
11 Nov 21 ARI @ KC Loss, 10-17
12 Nov 28 KC @ SEA Win, 21-14
13 Dec 05 DEN @ KC Win, 44-10
14 Dec 12 KC @ SD Loss, 13-24
15 Dec 19 KC @ STL Win, 31-10
16 Dec 26 TEN @ KC Loss, 24-27 OT
17 Jan 02 OAK @ KC Win, 17-13


Chiefs go 9-7 but we miss playoffs

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Arenas will have plenty of time to prove me wrong but I don't think there's a chance in hell that he was THE best player available at 2b.

Not even close.

I think Arenas will be a good player at two positions of need. But if there was one pick I would change, it would be that one.

But then again, you have to factor in that 2b picks are low second rounders for a reason. It was a safe pick.

[Mecca]

It's nice they took Berry, but that doesn't change what the rest of that draft was.

They can keep drafting nickel CB's and returners all they want, you know how you fix your 3rd CB problem? You get a ****ing pass rush, I don't care who they put in that secondary as long as this front 7 looks like this they will get passed on when teams aren't gashing them for 150+.

And hey I'll go with your theory if you like, if those were really the BPA's on the Chiefs board when those picks came up, then I severely question who's running the draft.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The fact that you think that McCluster is going to be some run-of-the-mill slot receiver is obvious proof that you had your mind made up on McCluster before he took a preseason snap.

If he doesn't learn to stop getting destroyed every game he's going to be a broken slot WR that plays 3 years.