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Old 09-05-2010, 04:10 PM  
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Chiefs cut someone to make room for NT Anthony Toribio
WR Quinten Lawrence released to make room for NT Anthony Toribio #Chiefs

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via Twitter Glad he is gone i think he should of been cut earlier.
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Old 09-05-2010, 07:45 PM   #46
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Yet that draft has 5 starters...you get 5 starters out of any draft it's good.

The Chiefs most likely won't have 5 starters out of these last 2 drafts combined, ponder that.
Eh they wouldn't have 5 starters if they had the standard 7 picks that year which is my point. Still though should we compare Charles to Kris Wilson since he's only really a part time player? Theres no doubt Pioli ****ed up last draft but i've been impressed with this years rookies so far.
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Old 09-05-2010, 07:57 PM   #47
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Wish they'd gotten more out of '09, but they didn't. Looks like Jackson and Succop are it out of that class. They may have 5 starters out of the last draft, though, if Moeaki manages to get and stay healthy, with Barry, McCluster, Asamoah, Moeaki and Lewis, and Arenas as nickel corner is already essentially a starter, too. I would be surprised if they weren't all playing significant time by the end of the year. I think Sheffield has a chance, as well, further down the road. As much as I didn't like '09 (and I didn't like anything about '09) I really like what they did this year.
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Old 09-05-2010, 08:18 PM   #48
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Moeaki looks awesome. He had the best 1-catch preseason in the history of the NFL.
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Old 09-05-2010, 08:28 PM   #49
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Moeaki looks awesome. He had the best 1-catch preseason in the history of the NFL.
I think I missed his one catch.

He's an enigma. I heard all through OTAs and camp how great he was and then he's hurt. Maybe he's the new Bigfoot, reports of sightings but I never get to witness it myself.
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Old 09-05-2010, 08:41 PM   #50
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Yet that draft has 5 starters...you get 5 starters out of any draft it's good.

The Chiefs most likely won't have 5 starters out of these last 2 drafts combined, ponder that.
Nobody doubts that 2009 sucked ass.

But out of 2010, Berry and Asamoah are pretty much surefire starters. Kendrick Lewis and Tony Moeaki could start as soon as this season. And Javier Arenas and Dexter McCluster will likely contribute to about a starter level.

To say that this draft is going to yield 2 starters or less is the definition of misleading. 4-5 of those guys will have a significant role with this team and 1 of those guys could on the very big "if" he stays healthy.
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Old 09-05-2010, 08:48 PM   #51
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But out of 2010, Berry and Asamoah are pretty much surefire starters.
The ONLY guy who looks like a starter now is Berry. Asamoah had a lousy preseason. He should have challenged for a starting job.

The rest of these guys have a lot to prove before they "resemble surefire starters." Especially, Moeaki, the one-catch, injury-prone wonder.
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Old 09-05-2010, 08:48 PM   #52
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I think I missed his one catch.

He's an enigma. I heard all through OTAs and camp how great he was and then he's hurt. Maybe he's the new Bigfoot, reports of sightings but I never get to witness it myself.
This guy's got nothin' on Bigfoot.

He's more like the Loch Ness Monster.
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Old 09-05-2010, 08:53 PM   #53
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The ONLY guy who looks like a starter now is Berry. Asamoah had a lousy preseason. He should have challenged for a starting job.

The rest of these guys have a lot to prove before they "resemble surefire starters." Especially, Moeaki, the one-catch, injury-prone wonder.
Surefire isn't the right word, but I think most feel pretty sure that he'll get his shit together and start. If not this year, then next year. I'm just commenting on Mecca's post that we'll likely only have 2 starters out of 2009 and 2010. If we're only talking about 2010 alone, there's a decent enough chance we could end up w/3-4 starters... and that's not including Arenas and McCluster, who aren't exactly backups--far from it. Moeaki's got a lot to prove, but I think Kendrick Lewis has proven quite a bit. He better be starting over McGraw.

Just pointing out how misleading mecca's comment was.
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Old 09-05-2010, 08:55 PM   #54
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I think most feel pretty sure that he'll get his shit together and start. If not this year, then next year.
Based on what, sheer hope?

McCluster and Arenas look exactly like backups right now.

McCluster looks like a backup running back who can't hack it as a slot wide receiver, which still wouldn't be a starting position, but would be enough to justify his draft position.

Arenas looks like a backup corner who is a good punt returner.

Lewis, if he starts, will only start because we have shit at safety.
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It's not misleading, kick returning nickelbacks are role players and not starters. If Tony Moeaki goes 5 minutes without getting injured it'll be the first time in his life..

Berry's a starter and the guard "should" start at some point, Lewis probably will we're up to 3 and McCluster is once again a role player.

On top of that who are we counting as starters from that other draft..Magee is never going to start, Tyson Jackson is bad enough that maybe he shouldn't be and counting a kicker as a starter is well a cheap starter.

And starter/contributing role player aren't the same thing. Brandon Flowers was a 2nd round CB, Arenas is a 2nd round CB one of them is great value one of them is not.
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Brandon Flowers was a 2nd round CB, Arenas is a 2nd round CB one of them is great value one of them is not.
Pretty simple, really.

If Arenas is worth that draft slot, Carr should be sweating by season's end.
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I don't see that happening...I do enjoy how this team put such high value on return man though meanwhile we'll challenge for worst run D in the league.
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I don't see that happening...I do enjoy how this team put such high value on return man though meanwhile we'll challenge for worst run D in the league.
Come on, Mecca.

I've been told repeatedly that the defense has been really impressive in preseason.
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Come on, Mecca.

I've been told repeatedly that the defense has been really impressive in preseason.
I really like some of the guys on this team but as long as the front 7 looks like this they won't be able to show what they have.
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I'll say give it 3 years before fully evaluating a draft class.
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