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chief4life · 09-05-2010, 04:10 PM

WR Quinten Lawrence released to make room for NT Anthony Toribio #Chiefs

from @JoshLooney

via Twitter Glad he is gone i think he should of been cut earlier.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-05-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie

Remember when the Bengals won the 09 draft

I don't recall anyone on Chiefsplanet, let alone the football media, declaring the Bengals winning anything in regards to the draft.

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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie

Scott may save this class eventually

Please explain.

Hammock Parties · 09-05-2010, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Please explain.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 09-05-2010, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't recall anyone on Chiefsplanet, let alone the football media, declaring the Bengals winning anything in regards to the draft.

Please explain.

bernard scott...

talking about the Bengals....not Pioli

Chiefs 09 class is already done for

Titty Meat · 09-06-2010, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Florida sucks ass without Tebow, that really isn't relevant to the pro game.

Sure it is those guys were impact players and Florida doesn't suck it wasn't Brantley who was ****ing up.

Mecca · 09-06-2010, 01:13 AM

I don't think anyone declared the Bengals the draft winner, Smith was questionable, their 2nd and 3rd round picks however were good picks so people liked those.

I'm trying to remember which drafts I liked the best right after the draft. I really liked the Giants draft I remember that one. Baltimore, Green Bay the usual suspects.

Actually if you want to use a team as an example that was declared the draft winner following the 2009 draft, it's the Eagles not the Bengals, pretty sure everyone loved all their picks.

**jAZ** · 09-06-2010, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Wish they'd gotten more out of '09, but they didn't. Looks like Jackson and Succop are it out of that class. They may have 5 starters out of the last draft, though, if Moeaki manages to get and stay healthy, with Barry, McCluster, Asamoah, Moeaki and Lewis, and Arenas as nickel corner is already essentially a starter, too. I would be surprised if they weren't all playing significant time by the end of the year. I think Sheffield has a chance, as well, further down the road. As much as I didn't like '09 (and I didn't like anything about '09) I really like what they did this year.

It was offered up as an excuse at the time, and history would seem to suggest it was true... in '09, we were working mostly with the draft info from the former regime's scouting staff/reports. In '10, we finally were able to have in place a full scouting staff from Pioli for a full draft season.

If that is in fact the case, and the '09 draft was indeed a horrible bust, that doesn't necessarily mean that Pioli = horrible bust. Not at all, in fact.

**BossChief** · 09-06-2010, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

As soon as I got to the spot where the guy says Stafford is "average" and called guys like Cushing, Raji and Crabtree nothing special, I stopped reading.

That site is full of complete idiots.

Just flippin ya a little shit, but I remember you saying how you would have rather taken Darius Heyward Bey over Crabtree before the draft.

There are a lot of idiots on that site, but everyone makes mistakes.

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Yet that draft has 5 starters...you get 5 starters out of any draft it's good.

The Chiefs most likely won't have 5 starters out of these last 2 drafts combined, ponder that.

I bet by years end that at least 6 players from the last two drafts are solid starters for us.

Jackson (never will live up to his draft position, but will play solid football for us by the end of the year IMO under this coaching staff)
Succop (tied the NFL rookie record for field goal accuracy, missed NO kicks under 40 yards and only one kick all year under 50 yards. 2-5 from 50+)
Berry
Lewis
Moeaki
Asamoah

DMC and Arenas will both play more than half the snaps and play pivotal roles for us on special teams as well.

The like the 10 draft class as much as I dislike the 09 draft class.

Mecca · 09-06-2010, 02:46 AM

Actually what I said was I wouldn't take Crabtree top 10 when Nicks is going to go in the bottom of the 1st round and they are virtually the same player.

I still stand by that today after their rookie years. Michael Crabtree is not 20 some slots better than Hakeem Nicks, hell he may not even be better.

**BossChief** · 09-06-2010, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Actually what I said was I wouldn't take Crabtree top 10 when Nicks is going to go in the bottom of the 1st round and they are virtually the same player.

I still stand by that today after their rookie years. Michael Crabtree is not 20 some slots better than Hakeem Nicks, hell he may not even be better.

well, if you insist:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...4&postcount=79

Maybe I'm weird but if I had a pick of WR and TE...I'd take Heyward-Bey and Cook over Crabtree and Coffman.

...

I thought I remember reading that.

SenselessChiefsFan · 09-06-2010, 07:37 AM

I understand the criticism of last year's draft. I disagree on some of the finer points, but it clearly wasn't a good draft.

After 4 preseason games, I don't understand the bashing of the Chiefs draft this year.

The first three picks all look like they will contribute great things in their first year.

McCluster has looked like a more versatile version of Wes Welker. He is a threat from the backfield, the slot and both of the return positions. So far, he is everything the Chiefs had hoped. I don't understand the criticism here. Given our QB's penchant for checking down.... this guy will be an integral part of the Chiefs passing game and a big time play maker.

Arenas has been electric in the return game. He is the same size as Flowers, only a little heavier. I can see him playing an awful lot in the nickel.

The Chiefs have lacked playmakers. These two are game changing types of players. I just don't understand the criticism. Especially, not now that they have shown it in the preseason.

Now, moving on.... Asamoah has looked like a solid third rounder.

We all know that the only concern about Moeaki is his ability to stay healthy. This was a gamble here... but, a first round talent for a third round pick seems to be worth the gamble. One could argue that the Chiefs don't have the option to gamble given their lack of good players. I would tend to agree. But, it is a gamble I would take on most teams. I won't bash them for it.

Kendrick Lewis has looked pretty good so far. He lacks speed, but he has good instincts, and I don't see a problem with this pick whatsoever.

I won't sit here and lobby for Sheffield, because I don't know enough about him and he hasn't stood out, yet.

But, overall, the 2010 draft looks good to me.

mcaj22 · 09-06-2010, 07:45 AM

Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey will never amount to picks 3 and 5 overall, 30+ million garunteed dollars worth of playing talent. What we invested in these guys they should be ****ing stars and almost pro bowl type talent, or at least show flashes of it.

But they don't. They are serviceable at best if that, and they will be like that this year, next year, and five years from now. We as fans have to accept that, it's a shame our d-line is so bad seeing as 2 of the top 5 highest paid players on the team play on it.

**Reaper16** · 09-06-2010, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

well, if you insist:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...4&postcount=79

Maybe I'm weird but if I had a pick of WR and TE...I'd take Heyward-Bey and Cook over Crabtree and Coffman.

...

I thought I remember reading that.

I'd rather have Heyward-Bey than Crabtree, too. Heyward-Bey has upside.

**SAUTO** · 09-06-2010, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't think anyone declared the Bengals the draft winner, Smith was questionable, their 2nd and 3rd round picks however were good picks so people liked those.

I'm trying to remember which drafts I liked the best right after the draft. I really liked the Giants draft I remember that one. Baltimore, Green Bay the usual suspects.

Actually if you want to use a team as an example that was declared the draft winner following the 2009 draft, it's the Eagles not the Bengals, pretty sure everyone loved all their picks.

Actually i think some did.

**SAUTO** · 09-06-2010, 10:00 AM

yeah there are TONS of posts where people said they loved the draft, the bengals killed it, the bengals pwned, do a search.

you were all over their nuts mecca.

Coach · 09-06-2010, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

yeah there are TONS of posts where people said they loved the draft, the bengals killed it, the bengals pwned, do a search.

you were all over their nuts mecca.

Well, not doubting your word, but it would be a wise idea to provide the link for the person(s) in question that said they loved the bengals killed it, loved it, etc.

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09-06-2010, 01:13 AM	#80
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-742950	I don't think anyone declared the Bengals the draft winner, Smith was questionable, their 2nd and 3rd round picks however were good picks so people liked those. I'm trying to remember which drafts I liked the best right after the draft. I really liked the Giants draft I remember that one. Baltimore, Green Bay the usual suspects. Actually if you want to use a team as an example that was declared the draft winner following the 2009 draft, it's the Eagles not the Bengals, pretty sure everyone loved all their picks.
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09-06-2010, 02:46 AM	#83
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-742950	Actually what I said was I wouldn't take Crabtree top 10 when Nicks is going to go in the bottom of the 1st round and they are virtually the same player. I still stand by that today after their rookie years. Michael Crabtree is not 20 some slots better than Hakeem Nicks, hell he may not even be better.
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09-06-2010, 07:37 AM	#85
SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	I understand the criticism of last year's draft. I disagree on some of the finer points, but it clearly wasn't a good draft. After 4 preseason games, I don't understand the bashing of the Chiefs draft this year. The first three picks all look like they will contribute great things in their first year. McCluster has looked like a more versatile version of Wes Welker. He is a threat from the backfield, the slot and both of the return positions. So far, he is everything the Chiefs had hoped. I don't understand the criticism here. Given our QB's penchant for checking down.... this guy will be an integral part of the Chiefs passing game and a big time play maker. Arenas has been electric in the return game. He is the same size as Flowers, only a little heavier. I can see him playing an awful lot in the nickel. The Chiefs have lacked playmakers. These two are game changing types of players. I just don't understand the criticism. Especially, not now that they have shown it in the preseason. Now, moving on.... Asamoah has looked like a solid third rounder. We all know that the only concern about Moeaki is his ability to stay healthy. This was a gamble here... but, a first round talent for a third round pick seems to be worth the gamble. One could argue that the Chiefs don't have the option to gamble given their lack of good players. I would tend to agree. But, it is a gamble I would take on most teams. I won't bash them for it. Kendrick Lewis has looked pretty good so far. He lacks speed, but he has good instincts, and I don't see a problem with this pick whatsoever. I won't sit here and lobby for Sheffield, because I don't know enough about him and he hasn't stood out, yet. But, overall, the 2010 draft looks good to me. __________________ A bad day at the gym is better than a good day on the Couch.
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09-06-2010, 07:45 AM	#86
mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey will never amount to picks 3 and 5 overall, 30+ million garunteed dollars worth of playing talent. What we invested in these guys they should be ****ing stars and almost pro bowl type talent, or at least show flashes of it. But they don't. They are serviceable at best if that, and they will be like that this year, next year, and five years from now. We as fans have to accept that, it's a shame our d-line is so bad seeing as 2 of the top 5 highest paid players on the team play on it.
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09-06-2010, 10:00 AM	#89
SAUTO Shit Join Date: Jun 2008 Casino cash: $10039067	yeah there are TONS of posts where people said they loved the draft, the bengals killed it, the bengals pwned, do a search. you were all over their nuts mecca.
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