Chiefs Why are the Chargers that much better? - Page 6

synthesis2 · 09-08-2010, 04:58 PM

I know I'm going to get a lot of flack for saying this and I even put money on the under for the chargers and the over on the chiefs because of this but I just don't see where they are that great of a team, especially with the changes.

Comparisons:

QB Chargers - B/B+ (not elite) Chiefs C (average at best)
RB Chargers - B- Chiefs A (may have best in league with combo)
WR Chargers - C+/B- (with holdout) Chiefs C+/B-
Oline Chargers - B Chiefs - B
TE Chargers - A Chiefs - D/C ( still not sure on 3rd round pick)
DL Chargers - B Chiefs - C/C+
LB Chargers - B Chiefs - B
Sec Chargers - C Chiefs - B+
Spec Chargers - B Chiefs - A
coaching Chargers -C Chiefs - B (with new off and def cord)

I guess we will see Monday but I just don't see it with the Chargers this year, besides QB, they are very pedestrian and we are better in several areas.

-King- · 09-08-2010, 07:43 PM

Top 5:

Brees
Rodgers
Manning
Brady
Rivers

**Buck** · 09-08-2010, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

Top 5:

Brees
Rodgers
Manning
Brady
Rivers

1. Manning
2. Brees
3. Rivers
4. Rodgers
5. Schaub

Not even being a homer. Brady, pretty much shat it up half the time last year.

Chiefs Pantalones · 09-08-2010, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

Rivers imo is a top 5 QB in this league.

I'd agree.

In no particular order, IMO...

Brees
Peyton Manning
Ben "I'll take the rapist for 300 Alex" Roethlisberger
Brady
Rivers
Rodgers 5A

Chiefs Pantalones · 09-08-2010, 07:48 PM

Rodgers will enter into the discussion more credibly when he wins a playoff game, IMO. He's top, don't get me wrong, I'm just basing the list with wins added into the equation. There's no doubt he'll be winning playoff games soon, and a bunch.

Quesadilla Joe · 09-08-2010, 07:48 PM

I'd rather have Rodgers than Rivers just because he can make play outside of the pocket and has a stronger arm.

**Buck** · 09-08-2010, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I'd rather have Rodgers than Rivers just because he can make play outside of the pocket and has a stronger arm.

That's true, but I think Philip Rivers makes up for it with his leadership skills. I think Rodgers will get there soon though.

Chiefs Pantalones · 09-08-2010, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I'd rather have Rodgers than Rivers just because he can make play outside of the pocket and has a stronger arm.

I'd rather have Rivers because he's won playoff games and is more experienced in that aspect. I don't care about arm strength. I care about winning and accuracy. I'm not saying Rodgers isn't accurate, he's probably the most accurate downfield QB in the game, I'm just saying arm strength is overrated when talking about the qualities that you look for in a top QB.

milkman · 09-08-2010, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

I'd rather have Rivers because he's won playoff games and is more experienced in that aspect. I don't care about arm strength. I care about winning and accuracy. I'm not saying Rodgers isn't accurate, he's probably the most accurate downfield QB in the game, I'm just saying arm strength is overrated when talking about the qualities that you look for in a top QB.

Right now, all things taken into consideration, I'd take Rogers over any QB in the league.

He's young and getting better.

Chiefs Pantalones · 09-08-2010, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

Right now, all things taken into consideration, I'd take Rogers over any QB in the league.

He's young and getting better.

Based on potential, I'd take him. Based on results, I'd take Rivers. Young, still plenty to improve on, already has plenty of big game experience, etc. I'd say it's a win-win either way really. Can't go wrong lol.

Buns · 09-08-2010, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

Right now, all things taken into consideration, I'd take Rogers over any QB in the league.

He's young and getting better.

If I was building a franchise, I might take Stafford first. If I want to win now, Rivers or Rapelisburger.

siberian khatru · 09-08-2010, 08:13 PM

All this QB talk makes me cry.

Chiefs Pantalones · 09-08-2010, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

All this QB talk makes me cry.

No worries, Berry is gonna end Rivers' season, Brady style. That should make us feel better, eh? haha jk jk.

**notorious** · 09-08-2010, 08:26 PM

I just got on Chiefsplanet and this is the first thread I click on......

Bewbies · 09-08-2010, 08:27 PM

If Rivers is a B Cassel has to be what, a T? Is that far enough below F?

siberian khatru · 09-08-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

If Rivers is a B Cassel has to be what, a T? Is that far enough below F?

I think as someone said a little while ago, there's not enough letters in the alphabet to account for Cassel.

09-08-2010, 04:58 PM
synthesis2 synthesis2 Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $9255401	Why are the Chargers that much better? I know I'm going to get a lot of flack for saying this and I even put money on the under for the chargers and the over on the chiefs because of this but I just don't see where they are that great of a team, especially with the changes. Comparisons: QB Chargers - B/B+ (not elite) Chiefs C (average at best) RB Chargers - B- Chiefs A (may have best in league with combo) WR Chargers - C+/B- (with holdout) Chiefs C+/B- Oline Chargers - B Chiefs - B TE Chargers - A Chiefs - D/C ( still not sure on 3rd round pick) DL Chargers - B Chiefs - C/C+ LB Chargers - B Chiefs - B Sec Chargers - C Chiefs - B+ Spec Chargers - B Chiefs - A coaching Chargers -C Chiefs - B (with new off and def cord) I guess we will see Monday but I just don't see it with the Chargers this year, besides QB, they are very pedestrian and we are better in several areas.
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