Chiefs Why are the Chargers that much better? - Page 15

synthesis2 · 09-08-2010, 04:58 PM

I know I'm going to get a lot of flack for saying this and I even put money on the under for the chargers and the over on the chiefs because of this but I just don't see where they are that great of a team, especially with the changes.

Comparisons:

QB Chargers - B/B+ (not elite) Chiefs C (average at best)
RB Chargers - B- Chiefs A (may have best in league with combo)
WR Chargers - C+/B- (with holdout) Chiefs C+/B-
Oline Chargers - B Chiefs - B
TE Chargers - A Chiefs - D/C ( still not sure on 3rd round pick)
DL Chargers - B Chiefs - C/C+
LB Chargers - B Chiefs - B
Sec Chargers - C Chiefs - B+
Spec Chargers - B Chiefs - A
coaching Chargers -C Chiefs - B (with new off and def cord)

I guess we will see Monday but I just don't see it with the Chargers this year, besides QB, they are very pedestrian and we are better in several areas.

Amnorix · 09-09-2010, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

If the pick six was a choke...

what was playing the worst game in a season that was one decent game away from always being remembered?

his smug response to Plaxico suggesting they'd only score 17 points...

Brady shit the bed...Brady's choke job (over the course of the whole game) cost the Pats immortality...

Manning made one bad pass the entire game in a season where the Colts would have won 2 games had he not been the league MVP and starting/in uniform every single game...just like every single year.

Brady goes out in game one...

and...

BEFORE HE EVER GOT INJURED...I HAVE ARCHIVED POSTS ON THIS BOARD SUGGESTING THAT HE WAS OVERRATED BECAUSE EVEN HIS INEXPERIENCED, HASN'T STARTED A GAME SINCE HIGH SCHOOL BACKUP COULD COME IN AND LEAD THAT TEAM TO THE PLAYOFFS...

well I was almost right...

he led them to 11 wins...but they got ****ed out of the playoffs (and who the hell knows what would have happened had they made a WC...with BB...who knows???)...

so yeah...

Brady is overrated.

He's great.

But he is 1/10th of the QB Peyton Manning is...and Manning will...easily, without a doubt...go down as the greatest to ever play the game.

If anyone in any sport has ever been close to MJ...

we're looking at him

Honestly, blaming Brady instead of the OLine for the Giants game is idiotic.

As is this debate, which is neither new nor newly interesting. At least Brady can point to the OLIne for losing that game. Manning can't blame anybody for that pick six.

Hootie · 09-09-2010, 03:01 PM

so Brady gets to blame his line but when Peyton did it years ago he was just being a bad teammates/baby...

lolololol

just admit Peyton Manning >>> Tom Brady and I'll never bring it up to you again

Amnorix · 09-09-2010, 03:07 PM

Shall we post a poll on here about whether it was Brady or his offensive line who should be blamed for losing the game?

We saw what Brady did when he was healthy and had the weapons around him that Manning has had his entire career -- undefeated until losing in the SB by the skin of their teeth, and a new record for TDs in a season.

I've said this before and I'll say it again -- both are great QBs and I wouldn't be unhyappy to have either on my team. The only reason I even discuss this with you is because of your stupid thought that Manning is to Brady what Michael Jordan is to, oh, I don't know, Greg Kite. It's reeruned. Beyond reeruned.

But yeah, Peyton wouldn't have won any more championships than Tom did. Sorry to disappoint you on that one.

Msmith · 09-09-2010, 03:27 PM

Take the preseason game the Saints vs the Chargers. With both teams had their first units played in the first half, the score was tied 14-14. Rivers rallied both TDs. Matthew ran wild at first and was contended later. Expect the outcome to be similar, Rivers will do most the damage. Matthew will run for a while until the defense figures him out then his yardage would be dropped off.

**the Talking Can** · 09-09-2010, 04:08 PM

hootie's takes on brady are a kind of reerunation it is hard to fathom....

keg in kc · 09-09-2010, 04:11 PM

It's hootie...

ThaVirus · 09-09-2010, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus

Wait so Tom Brady isn't a top 5 QB anymore?

No, he's not. If we were talking about careers, then yes he would be; but as of right now I'd take all of those 5 over Brady..

michaelj_58 · 09-09-2010, 04:23 PM

its going to come down to tunovers,rivers against our secondary in the fourth quarter!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-09-2010, 04:42 PM

Oh **** New England already.

keg in kc · 09-09-2010, 04:45 PM

People thinking Brady is off his game because he only had 4400 yards passing and 28 TDs is a sign that the guy really is on another level.

**Kyle DeLexus** · 09-09-2010, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

People thinking Brady is off his game because he only had 4400 yards passing and 28 TDs is a sign that the guy really is on another level.

Thats the truth. It would take a couple years a little worse than that to move him out of the #2 spot. Statistically that was his 2nd best year too I believe.

The guy just hasn't been to a Superbowl in 2 years (one of which he's on the IR) so he must be washed up.

MadMax · 09-09-2010, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ROR

Oh **** New England already.

THIS!!! times 11 billion.

Hootie · 09-09-2010, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc

People thinking Brady is off his game because he only had 4400 yards passing and 28 TDs is a sign that the guy really is on another level.

well he did take an 11 win Matt Cassel led team and turned them into a ... 10 win team.

synthesis2 · 09-09-2010, 10:47 PM

I understand how @#@@ the chiefs have made us feel over the last several years, all I am saying is that with their best O-Lineman holding out, as well as their best WR, having a rookie running back we have a very good chance to beat the chargers.

Do I think its a sure thing? Absolutely not but I think we have at least a 50/50 chance and I think there is no reason why we can't win the division, this is about as weak as I can remember in the last 20 years.

Yes they are better at QB, a lot better but after that and TE, we are just as good if not better in many areas. I just don't see how they are that much better, if at all.

It does not really matter, we will see come Monday night, if they lay a turd then everyone on the board that thinks we suck will be on the right track, if we win that I hope you speak up as well.

4 days baby!!!!!!!!!

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-09-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by synthesis2

I think there is no reason why we can't win the division, this is about as weak as I can remember in the last 20 years.

You're a ****ing mouth-breathing, drooling Mongo.

The Chiefs couldn't win this division if Denver, San Diego & Oakland all took detours into the Bermuda Triangle before facing the Chiefs.

09-08-2010, 04:58 PM
synthesis2 synthesis2 Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $9255401	Why are the Chargers that much better? I know I'm going to get a lot of flack for saying this and I even put money on the under for the chargers and the over on the chiefs because of this but I just don't see where they are that great of a team, especially with the changes. Comparisons: QB Chargers - B/B+ (not elite) Chiefs C (average at best) RB Chargers - B- Chiefs A (may have best in league with combo) WR Chargers - C+/B- (with holdout) Chiefs C+/B- Oline Chargers - B Chiefs - B TE Chargers - A Chiefs - D/C ( still not sure on 3rd round pick) DL Chargers - B Chiefs - C/C+ LB Chargers - B Chiefs - B Sec Chargers - C Chiefs - B+ Spec Chargers - B Chiefs - A coaching Chargers -C Chiefs - B (with new off and def cord) I guess we will see Monday but I just don't see it with the Chargers this year, besides QB, they are very pedestrian and we are better in several areas.
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09-09-2010, 03:01 PM	#212
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	so Brady gets to blame his line but when Peyton did it years ago he was just being a bad teammates/baby... lolololol just admit Peyton Manning >>> Tom Brady and I'll never bring it up to you again
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09-09-2010, 03:07 PM	#213
Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	Shall we post a poll on here about whether it was Brady or his offensive line who should be blamed for losing the game? We saw what Brady did when he was healthy and had the weapons around him that Manning has had his entire career -- undefeated until losing in the SB by the skin of their teeth, and a new record for TDs in a season. I've said this before and I'll say it again -- both are great QBs and I wouldn't be unhyappy to have either on my team. The only reason I even discuss this with you is because of your stupid thought that Manning is to Brady what Michael Jordan is to, oh, I don't know, Greg Kite. It's reeruned. Beyond reeruned. But yeah, Peyton wouldn't have won any more championships than Tom did. Sorry to disappoint you on that one.
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09-09-2010, 03:27 PM	#214
Msmith Veteran Join Date: Jan 2004 Casino cash: $8218035	Take the preseason game the Saints vs the Chargers. With both teams had their first units played in the first half, the score was tied 14-14. Rivers rallied both TDs. Matthew ran wild at first and was contended later. Expect the outcome to be similar, Rivers will do most the damage. Matthew will run for a while until the defense figures him out then his yardage would be dropped off.
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09-09-2010, 04:08 PM	#215
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09-09-2010, 04:11 PM	#216
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	It's hootie...
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09-09-2010, 04:23 PM	#218
michaelj_58 Starter Join Date: Aug 2009 Casino cash: $10005231	its going to come down to tunovers,rivers against our secondary in the fourth quarter!
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09-09-2010, 04:45 PM	#220
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	People thinking Brady is off his game because he only had 4400 yards passing and 28 TDs is a sign that the guy really is on another level.
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09-09-2010, 10:47 PM	#224
synthesis2 synthesis2 Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $9255401	I understand how @#@@ the chiefs have made us feel over the last several years, all I am saying is that with their best O-Lineman holding out, as well as their best WR, having a rookie running back we have a very good chance to beat the chargers. Do I think its a sure thing? Absolutely not but I think we have at least a 50/50 chance and I think there is no reason why we can't win the division, this is about as weak as I can remember in the last 20 years. Yes they are better at QB, a lot better but after that and TE, we are just as good if not better in many areas. I just don't see how they are that much better, if at all. It does not really matter, we will see come Monday night, if they lay a turd then everyone on the board that thinks we suck will be on the right track, if we win that I hope you speak up as well. 4 days baby!!!!!!!!!
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