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Old 09-09-2010, 02:55 PM  
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So where are the Locker fans?
Does his performance vs BYU change your mind? To me theres no doubt he's a Cassel clown.
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Old 09-19-2010, 04:54 AM   #181
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Ponder is a stud. He has already received his Masters in Business Administration from Florida State, is physically developed for the next level, has excellent pocket awareness, and is very accurate. His only knock is that he doesn't have a cannon for an arm, but it's still quite good.
Well, another knock is that he is a head case.
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Old 09-19-2010, 05:24 AM   #182
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Well, another knock is that he is a head case.
Yeah, I hate those "head cases" that get their MBA before their four years of eligibility is up. I mean, taking graduate business administration classes, which means you've already killed 120 undergrad hours plus another 60 grad hours and whatever intern level bullshit you have to put up with to get the MBA, shows that this guy is a complete head case. Psycho.

Plus the fact that he has an NFL ready physique, and can actually hit a guy in stride.

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Old 09-19-2010, 07:10 AM   #183
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I have had visions of Locker in red, but...I really don't care who we get as long as they fill the vacancy left by cassel.
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Old 09-19-2010, 07:31 AM   #184
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I'm on the Chiefs drafting a QB bandwagon this offseason and I thought Locker could be one of those intriguing guys.

Not any more.

I understand everybody has bad games but some of his decisions where just flat out bad. With a pass rush in his face what does he did? Throw a Brett Farve esk prayer jump ball. What?

Furthmore, I didn't see a single throw that really impressed me.

Pass on this guy. I don't want our next QB to be "raw" as the announcers were saying.
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Old 09-19-2010, 07:40 AM   #185
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dude was a #1 pick in walter's mock put out 3 days ago

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Old 09-19-2010, 07:41 AM   #186
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Walters, killing the Chiefs, again:

San Francisco 49ers: Christian Ponder, QB, Florida State
Outside of Matt Cassel, Jake Delhomme and Trent Edwards, Alex Smith was the worst quarterback in all the season openers. Unlike Kevin Kolb, he played the whole game, and unlike Jason Campbell, he has the talent around him to succeed. If Smith keeps playing like this,the 49ers won't have a choice. They'll have to draft a quarterback.

Christian Ponder struggled against Oklahoma, but I have to believe he'll turn things around and build some momentum against the weak ACC. And with some character issues soon surfacing regarding Ryan Mallett, Ponder will be the clear-cut No. 3 quarterback in the 2011 NFL Draft.

This is my least favorite pick in my 2011 NFL Mock Draft because it's slightly too early for Ponder - especially after that Oklahoma game - but the fact remains that reaching for a quarterback is better than continuously starting a dreadful one.
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Old 09-19-2010, 08:39 AM   #187
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The Right QB, Frankie. NOT LB, RT, C, or towel-boy.

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Walters, killing the Chiefs, again:

San Francisco 49ers: Christian Ponder, QB, Florida State
Outside of Matt Cassel, Jake Delhomme and Trent Edwards, Alex Smith was the worst quarterback in all the season openers. Unlike Kevin Kolb, he played the whole game, and unlike Jason Campbell, he has the talent around him to succeed. If Smith keeps playing like this,the 49ers won't have a choice. They'll have to draft a quarterback.

Christian Ponder struggled against Oklahoma, but I have to believe he'll turn things around and build some momentum against the weak ACC. And with some character issues soon surfacing regarding Ryan Mallett, Ponder will be the clear-cut No. 3 quarterback in the 2011 NFL Draft.

This is my least favorite pick in my 2011 NFL Mock Draft because it's slightly too early for Ponder - especially after that Oklahoma game - but the fact remains that reaching for a quarterback is better than continuously starting a dreadful one.
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Old 09-19-2010, 09:01 AM   #188
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Well, I only listened to the game on the radio, but Gabbert threw two back breaking picks when we needed him the most, he was also very inaccurate save for a stretch in the second quarter.

Again, it doesn't help that we have no running game and that all our passes are 0-5 yards downfield. Gabbert plays better the more we stretch the field.

Yost and Pinkel simply have to go.

I don't know why we don't implement more traditional sets with our offense. We have decent size on the line and a number of large WRs and TEs who can beat single coverage. I actually think the spread makes this a worse offense.
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Old 09-19-2010, 10:44 AM   #189
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The Right QB, Frankie. NOT LB, RT, C, or towel-boy.
It's going to be a very deep QB draft. I really think that you'll find an excellent QBOTF in the 2nd round or so. However, there isn't a pure 3-4 rush backer like Miller available unless you pick Miller. It's a pick your poison type of thing.

I really like Ponder a lot. But the problem is, you never know what you are getting in a college quarterback until they hit the field. You know what you are getting in Miller - a guy with a wicked first step and insane speed.

As far as quarterbacks go, there are going to be a lot of really solid pro prospects beyond the obvious hyped guys like Mallet and Locker.

Pat Devlin of Delaware has all the tools - a strong arm that's accurate and good pocket presence.


Andy Dalton is tearing it up again this year.


And you'll have to wait and see which underclassman declares as the 2012 crop of QB's might be even better with guys like Nick Foles of Arizona, Blaine Gabbert of Missouri, Terrelle Pryor of Ohio State, Matt Barkley of USC (sophomore this year), Andrew Luck of Stanford (redshirt sophomore this year), John Brantley of Florida, Kellen Moore of Boise State (Jesus, this kid really looks good - completely poised with an amazing touch, but he'll get downgraded because he's not prototypical size.), Garrett Gilbert of Texas (sophomore this year), etc.

If the Chiefs were to pull the trigger on a QB this year, I'm for Ponder. However, there isn't a guy who's come out in the past couple of years who is like Von Miller. He's the absolute prototype for a rush linebacker in a 3-4 set and he's got one of the best first steps I've ever seen. It's Derrick Thomas level good. And the Chiefs pass rush is anemic. I don't think that they can pass on a guy like Miller. Shore up the O-line in subsequent rounds, get them into the system, and go for a QB in 2012.
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Old 09-19-2010, 10:48 AM   #190
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Gabbert was ****ing horrendous today too, but it doesn't help when the OC isn't calling downfield passing plays.

Either way, all of these QBs will have just enough warts so that the anti-QB crowd can throw a shit fit at the thought of drafting any of them.
Yost called a lot of downfield passing plays in the first half, Gabbert just couldn't hit them.

Gabbert is exclusively responsible for his struggles yesterday. Not Pinkel, not Yost, not even Jackson. He played like shit and missed any deep throws he tried in the first half, so Yost dialed down the playcalling in the 2nd.

I liked the playcalling a lot in the first half, but Gabbert showed he couldn't shoulder the load on this particular day.
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It's going to be a very deep QB draft. I really think that you'll find an excellent QBOTF in the 2nd round or so. However, there isn't a pure 3-4 rush backer like Miller available unless you pick Miller. It's a pick your poison type of thing.
You draft your QB in the first round period.
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You draft your QB in the first round period.
How's that Akili Smith jersey fit?
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I already said I'd have no problem taking a guy like Ponder in the first as I think he's got the right set of tools to excel in Weis' offensive system. But it is risky. And I would rather not have them reach on a guy in the first just because he plays the quarterback position. And especially I would hope that the front office has the foresight to look at potential guys for future drafts, especially at the QB position.

But a pure outside rusher is just as rare as the franchise quarterback and I wouldn't mind them taking Miller either.

Hell, I wouldn't mind one of the wide receivers either, but they aren't the premiere position that a QB, OLB/Rush End, LOT is.

For every Peyton Manning, there is the Joe Montana. For every Troy Aikmen, there is a Tom Brady. For every Brian Brohm, there is a Jamarcus Russell. I have no idea where I'm going with this.
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Christian Ponder? Wow talk about scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
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