Listen up, KC media hacks; THIS is how you do a Chiefs article.

[penchief]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

"Getting emotional."

Yeah, that's all it was.

If you want to go through life thinking that MFing a bunch of grown men is a way to get their respect - to get them to buy in, go right ahead.

I know better.

It appears he had their respect. To say otherwise is to do so without any basis in anything other than personal opinion. Yet there were many like you who whined and bitched about something you had no real insight about. Only speculation and your own agenda.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Looks like arguing the poster instead of the post is becoming the M.O. around here.

[penchief]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Looks like arguing the poster instead of the post is becoming the M.O. around here.

Absolutely not. You must be cherrypicking yourself because you keep missing the point. You can say you don't like the way Haley acted all you want. But it's not your place to claim to know how his conduct affected the team. Apparently he didn't lose them. And apparently he has their respect.

So those of you who predicted Haley's demise and who are now trying to peddle the notion that Haley's so called "makeover" is the reason he is succeeding are full of yourselves. He's succeeding now because of the foundation he built last year and his persistence in sticking to his guns.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by penchief

Absolutely not. You must be cherrypicking yourself because you keep missing the point. You can say you don't like the way Haley acted all you want. But it's not your place to claim to know how his conduct affected the team. Apparently he didn't lose them. And apparently he has their respect.

So those of you who predicted Haley's demise and who are now trying to peddle the notion that Haley's so called "makeover" is the reason he is succeeding are full of yourselves. He's succeeding now because of the foundation he built last year and his persistence in sticking to his guns.

Anyone else see the irony in this post, or just me?

[penchief]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Anyone else see the irony in this post, or just me?

I'm beginning to see the irony in debating with you. You're a know-it-all until you have to back up your claims. Then you resort to diversionary tactics.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by penchief

Absolutely not. You must be cherrypicking yourself because you keep missing the point. You can say you don't like the way Haley acted all you want. But it's not your place to claim to know how his conduct affected the team. Apparently he didn't lose them. And apparently he has their respect.

So those of you who predicted Haley's demise and who are now trying to peddle the notion that Haley's so called "makeover" is the reason he is succeeding are full of yourselves. He's succeeding now because of the foundation he built last year and his persistence in sticking to his guns.

Originally Posted by penchief

I'm beginning to see the irony in debating with you. You're a know-it-all until you have to back up your claims. Then you resort to diversionary tactics.

Idiot.

Back up my claims?

It's an OPINION.

Which is why the bullshit you posted is so ****ing ironic.

You tell me that it's "not my place to claim to know how his conduct affected the team."

Then turn around and do exactly what you claim is not my place.

You don't know any more than I do - neither of us were in the locker room.

But I know what I saw both on TV and live at Arrowhead - that after the Pittsburgh game, and Haley stopped acting like a jackass on the sideline - that players improved, the effort seemed higher and we started playing with more energy.

Again, just an opinion. Just like yours.

Except mine isn't littered with words like "agenda."

[penchief]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Idiot.

Back up my claims?

It's an OPINION.

Which is why the bullshit you posted is so ****ing ironic.

You tell me that it's "not my place to claim to know how his conduct affected the team."

Then turn around and do exactly what you claim is not my place.

You don't know any more than I do - neither of us were in the locker room.

But I know what I saw both on TV and live at Arrowhead - that after the Pittsburgh game, and Haley stopped acting like a jackass on the sideline - that players improved, the effort seemed higher and we started playing with more energy.

Again, just an opinion. Just like yours.

Except mine isn't littered with words like "agenda."

Exactly. You don't know anymore than I do. Which is why I choose to give the benefit of the doubt whereas you choose to condemn. If you are going to condemn then you should be able to provide enough evidence to justify your strong negative opinions.

All the evidence I saw last year was that he was purging this team of its sense of entitlement and its loser mentality. I think last year went a long way in earning his players respect. You seem to be more interested in decorum than substance.

[LOCOChief]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Idiot.

Back up my claims?

It's an OPINION.

Which is why the bullshit you posted is so ****ing ironic.

You tell me that it's "not my place to claim to know how his conduct affected the team."

Then turn around and do exactly what you claim is not my place.

You don't know any more than I do - neither of us were in the locker room.

But I know what I saw both on TV and live at Arrowhead - that after the Pittsburgh game, and Haley stopped acting like a jackass on the sideline - that players improved, the effort seemed higher and we started playing with more energy.

Again, just an opinion. Just like yours.

Except mine isn't littered with words like "agenda."

I think what you've failed to realize is Haley had a plan that he is executing in quarters as he has told us. It started with him letting the current players know that no one player was bigger than the team. If you've been part of a team that knew any sort of success then you know what I'm saying. That process while painfull will make even grown buys get butthurt sometimes. My question is who gives a shit?

Look at the results.