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T-post Tom · 10:19 PM

How The Chiefs Can Beat The Colts
by Patrick Allen
Sep 30th

The Kansas City Chiefs won’t take on the Indianapolis Colts until October 10th but you can bet Todd Haley and his coaching staff are using their “week off” to work.

Here at Arrowhead Addict, we’re doing the same.

The Chiefs are still not getting respect from the national media. Don’t confuse KC’s recent mentions in the national press as respect. They are just mentions. The “experts” have to mention that the Chiefs are 3-0 and they have to mention that it is remarkable but that doesn’t mean they respect them and it certainly doesn’t mean they think the Chiefs stand a snowballs chance in hell of knocking off the Colts on the road.

They might be right. Peyton Manning is one of the best QB’s ever and as some of our astute readers pointed out earlier today, the Colts are nearly unbeatable at home. Since 2005 the Colts are 35 and 6 at home.

Despite their record the Chiefs are still developing. They have a very, very young secondary. The type of secondary Peyton Manning puts in an omelet and eats for breakfast.

Yet given all that, I think the Chiefs are perfectly constructed to beat the Indianapolis Colts.

Ok, maybe not perfectly constructed. It would help if the Chiefs had Joe Montana at QB instead of Matt Cassel but you have to play with the guys you’ve got.

While game planning for the Colts, the Chiefs need to look no farther than the Houston Texans.

Houston is the only team to beat the Colts this year and they exposed in the first game weaknesses that Indi’s last two opponents have failed to take advantage of. Whether the Texans stumbled upon their victory by planning or luck, it worked and the Chiefs would be fools not to look pretty hard at the Texans Week 1 box score.

I’m no fool so I’ve done just that. The way the Texans beat the Colts was very simple.

They ran it down their freaking throats.

For years the Texans have been getting into shootouts with Peyton Manning and for years Manning has beat them. Not this year.

The Texans beat the mighty Indianapolis Colts with a measly 98 yards passing.

Matt Shaub, normally a very good QB capable of putting up huge numbers, attempted only 17 passes to Manning’s 57.

No the Texans ran on the Colts. The pounded the ball with Arian Foster, who racked up 231 yards. In the end the Texans gashed Indi’s pitiful run defense for 257 yards and 3 rushing touchdowns.

On the defensive side of the ball, the Texans weren’t delusional enough to believe they could shut down Manning. Nobody can shut down Manning.

Peyton completed a ridiculous 40 of 57 passes for 433 yards and 3 touchdowns.

More than a few times the Texans let Manning march down into their territory before tightening up their D. They avoided letting Manning get the big play, giving him the underneath stuff. They let him get his numbers.

They got the victory.

The Chiefs have a team constructed to implement a similar game plan. They have a quick and athletic secondary that knows how to tackle. They should be able to keep the Colts receivers in front of them. When the Colts get into Chiefs territory, Flowers, Carr, Berry and Lewis should be able to tighten up enough to hold the Colts to some FG’s.

When the Chiefs have the ball they have to take advantage of Indi’s 29th ranked run defense. The Colts are giving up an average of 141.3 yards per game while the Chiefs are averaging 160.7 yards rushing. This won’t be a repeat of the 2007 Wild Card Playoffs. Bob Sanders isn’t coming back. The Colts aren’t going to suddenly learn how to stop the run. If the Chiefs can gash the Colts on the ground they should be able to score without Matt Cassel needing to throw for 400 yards.

The Chiefs will have to be opportunistic. They won’t be able to turn the ball over and they had better continue to avoid penalties.

If they can do these things I think the Chiefs have a legitimate shot at shocking the world.

A couple of special teams touchdowns wouldn’t hurt either.

http://arrowheadaddict.com/2010/09/3...eat-the-colts/

It'd be a lot easier if we could have Bernie "Flashdance" Pollard for just one play. [Which would make Curtis Painter our starting QB next year.

]

Hootie · 10-01-2010, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

Nevermind, just read that you aren't interested. (our posts posted at the same time)

I was hoping on seeing if you would actually put something behind your claims for once, on here.

I hate betting against the Chiefs because I know like hell I'll be rooting for them 100%...

I hope they do win. I would lose all of my fantasy games and get punched in the face in exchange for a Chiefs win @ Indy...

That would be the happiest moment of the freaking year for me...easily.

I will eat an AIDS infested crow if it were to happen.

But it won't.

We aren't good enough to beat those guys on their turf yet...

Hootie · 10-01-2010, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

I'm picking the Chiefs to lose also. I'm 3-0 on the year with my predictions, and I hope to god I go 3-1. But you must take into account that you're a huuuge Peyton Manning homer, and the Colts are one of the teams that you seem to be enamored with.

I am a huge Peyton Manning fan.

He's the closest thing to Michael Jordan I've ever seen.

He's the best football player I've ever watched.

He's absolutely amazing and the things he does are unbelievable...

And this is a QB driven league...and other than that rough stretch they had (before rattling off like 9 straight) in 2008 (when Lucas Field opened up)...they don't lose at home.

and yet suddenly people are giving us a 60% shot of victory?!

What?

WHAT?

johnny961 · 10-01-2010, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaiko

Pass rush on the Colts bad OL.. and Run run run with JC and TJ.

Yeah, thats kinda my thoughts. If we can get pressure on Manning, preferably without having to use alot of blitzes, this will help. And run the ball down their throats to eat up as much clock as possible and keep Peyton off of the field as much as possible.

**BossChief** · 10-01-2010, 12:24 AM

OK then.

We win, I own your avatar or sig rights for a month...whichever you choose.

We lose and you own my sig or avatar for two weeks (given the perceived difference in the teams and how Indy is an overwhelming favorite in the game)

If we go over 140 yards, you cant talk about Peyton Manning till January

If we dont, I cant talk about Moeaki till January.

That sound fair?

Hootie · 10-01-2010, 12:25 AM

I think we need to start using more 4 receiver sets with Charles and McCluster both in the game...pick your poison with those two and try to get one open in space.

Seriously...I wouldn't be opposed one bit to the Chiefs using Charles more like the Saints use Bush...except with more carries of course...but shit...no reason why TJ and JC can't be in the game at the same time...even McCluster, too.

So many options with these dynamic playmakers...

KCrockaholic · 10-01-2010, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

I am a huge Peyton Manning fan.

He's the closest thing to Michael Jordan I've ever seen.

He's the best football player I've ever watched.

He's absolutely amazing and the things he does are unbelievable...

And this is a QB driven league...and other than that rough stretch they had (before rattling off like 9 straight) in 2008 (when Lucas Field opened up)...they don't lose at home.

and yet suddenly people are giving us a 60% shot of victory?!

What?

WHAT?

Heh. Not me. I'm give us a 20% chance to win.

But the match-ups are there, and our defense is better this year than it has been in a decade. This is going to be closer than 14 points. I'm thinking something closer to 27-24 as the final score. With that said, if we come that close to winning against them I will be very happy.

KCrockaholic · 10-01-2010, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

I think we need to start using more 4 receiver sets with Charles and McCluster both in the game...pick your poison with those two and try to get one open in space.

Seriously...I wouldn't be opposed one bit to the Chiefs using Charles more like the Saints use Bush...except with more carries of course...but shit...no reason why TJ and JC can't be in the game at the same time...even McCluster, too.

So many options with these dynamic playmakers...

I love the draw play where we have Jones as the HB, Charles and McCluster in the slot and they begin the play as if it's a bubble screen, then Jones has a huge hole up the middle of the field. That play is MONEY.

Hootie · 10-01-2010, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

OK then.

We win, I own your avatar or sig rights for a month...whichever you choose.

We lose and you own my sig or avatar for two weeks (given the perceived difference in the teams and how Indy is an overwhelming favorite in the game)

If we go over 140 yards, you cant talk about Peyton Manning till January

If we dont, I cant talk about Moeaki till January.

That sound fair?

Axe the Manning part because I can't reasonably go that long without talking about him

and you have a deal.

I just hope people don't get some notion that I'm rooting for the Colts...because I am absolutely not going to do so. Not one bit.

Guys...

I live in Champaign, IL...

Every day for the last week (during the day) I have walked up and down campus with a Chiefs shirt on...every Wednesday at my bowling league I sport a Chiefs shirt or jersey...

I love the Chiefs. More than anything...even my girlfriend knows where she stands...

but I'm going to be realistic about this game in Indy.

Hootie · 10-01-2010, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

I love the draw play where we have Jones as the HB, Charles and McCluster in the slot and they begin the play as if it's a bubble screen, then Jones has a huge hole up the middle of the field. That play is MONEY.

we don't seem to be good enough to get the ball to Bowe/Chambers anyways...so why not feature Charles/McCluster/TJ on the field more often...

But like I said...

all the options...we're turning into a "pick your poison" nightmare for opposing DCs...

**BossChief** · 10-01-2010, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

I hate betting against the Chiefs because I know like hell I'll be rooting for them 100%...

I hope they do win. I would lose all of my fantasy games and get punched in the face in exchange for a Chiefs win @ Indy...

That would be the happiest moment of the freaking year for me...easily.

I will eat an AIDS infested crow if it were to happen.

But it won't.

We aren't good enough to beat those guys on their turf yet...

Dude, in 2007 (when we were a god awful team as a whole) in Croyles first NFL start and Herm as coach...we lost by 3 points to Indy at Indy in a game we missed three field goals.

This team is far better at damn near every single position from then and I would have to say that with the exception of PM, the Colts aren't any better at almost any position over their 2007 team.

I think you are underestimating our chances in this game.

**BossChief** · 10-01-2010, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Axe the Manning part because I can't reasonably go that long without talking about him

and you have a deal.

I just hope people don't get some notion that I'm rooting for the Colts...because I am absolutely not going to do so. Not one bit.

Guys...

I live in Champaign, IL...

Every day for the last week (during the day) I have walked up and down campus with a Chiefs shirt on...every Wednesday at my bowling league I sport a Chiefs shirt or jersey...

I love the Chiefs. More than anything...even my girlfriend knows where she stands...

but I'm going to be realistic about this game in Indy.

we meet in the middle and drop the month to December 1st and we have a "e-shake" on the bet.

At least it will add something fun to the outcome...deal?

KCrockaholic · 10-01-2010, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

Dude, in 2007 (when we were a god awful team as a whole) in Croyles first NFL start and Herm as coach...we lost by 3 points to Indy at Indy in a game we missed three field goals.

This team is far better at damn near every single position from then and I would have to say that with the exception of PM, the Colts aren't any better at almost any position over their 2007 team.

I think you are underestimating our chances in this game.

Bob Sanders was the DMVP of that year I believe. And although I think Bullitt is awesome, he isn't as good as Sanders when he's not injured.

Hootie · 10-01-2010, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

Dude, in 2007 (when we were a god awful team as a whole) in Croyles first NFL start and Herm as coach...we lost by 3 points to Indy at Indy in a game we missed three field goals.

This team is far better at damn near every single position from then and I would have to say that with the exception of PM, the Colts aren't any better at almost any position over their 2007 team.

I think you are underestimating our chances in this game.

I think you're comparing apples to oranges here...the teams you are comparing have absolutely NO SIMILARITIES...

but hey...

bet is done...

and when I win I probably won't even tough your sig or avatar...because I don't care...but you're trying to act like I never "stand by my claims" which is total bullshit.

**BossChief** · 10-01-2010, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

Bob Sanders was the DMVP of that year I believe. And although I think Bullitt is awesome, he isn't as good as Sanders when he's not injured.

hence the "damn near every position" in my post.

Hootie · 10-01-2010, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

we meet in the middle and drop the month to December 1st and we have a "e-shake" on the bet.

At least it will add something fun to the outcome...deal?

Dude...

It's pretty easy to stop talking about a rookie TE...

Peyton Manning is brought up more on this Chiefs board than Tony Moeaki...

I'm not going to stop talking about Peyton Manning...that is just setting me up for something that isn't going to happen.

09-30-2010, 10:06 PM
T-post Tom Busy in a Kohl's restroom Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $1757293	How The Chiefs Can Beat The Colts How The Chiefs Can Beat The Colts by Patrick Allen Sep 30th The Kansas City Chiefs won’t take on the Indianapolis Colts until October 10th but you can bet Todd Haley and his coaching staff are using their “week off” to work. Here at Arrowhead Addict, we’re doing the same. The Chiefs are still not getting respect from the national media. Don’t confuse KC’s recent mentions in the national press as respect. They are just mentions. The “experts” have to mention that the Chiefs are 3-0 and they have to mention that it is remarkable but that doesn’t mean they respect them and it certainly doesn’t mean they think the Chiefs stand a snowballs chance in hell of knocking off the Colts on the road. They might be right. Peyton Manning is one of the best QB’s ever and as some of our astute readers pointed out earlier today, the Colts are nearly unbeatable at home. Since 2005 the Colts are 35 and 6 at home. Despite their record the Chiefs are still developing. They have a very, very young secondary. The type of secondary Peyton Manning puts in an omelet and eats for breakfast. Yet given all that, I think the Chiefs are perfectly constructed to beat the Indianapolis Colts. Ok, maybe not perfectly constructed. It would help if the Chiefs had Joe Montana at QB instead of Matt Cassel but you have to play with the guys you’ve got. While game planning for the Colts, the Chiefs need to look no farther than the Houston Texans. Houston is the only team to beat the Colts this year and they exposed in the first game weaknesses that Indi’s last two opponents have failed to take advantage of. Whether the Texans stumbled upon their victory by planning or luck, it worked and the Chiefs would be fools not to look pretty hard at the Texans Week 1 box score. I’m no fool so I’ve done just that. The way the Texans beat the Colts was very simple. They ran it down their freaking throats. For years the Texans have been getting into shootouts with Peyton Manning and for years Manning has beat them. Not this year. The Texans beat the mighty Indianapolis Colts with a measly 98 yards passing. Matt Shaub, normally a very good QB capable of putting up huge numbers, attempted only 17 passes to Manning’s 57. No the Texans ran on the Colts. The pounded the ball with Arian Foster, who racked up 231 yards. In the end the Texans gashed Indi’s pitiful run defense for 257 yards and 3 rushing touchdowns. On the defensive side of the ball, the Texans weren’t delusional enough to believe they could shut down Manning. Nobody can shut down Manning. Peyton completed a ridiculous 40 of 57 passes for 433 yards and 3 touchdowns. More than a few times the Texans let Manning march down into their territory before tightening up their D. They avoided letting Manning get the big play, giving him the underneath stuff. They let him get his numbers. They got the victory. The Chiefs have a team constructed to implement a similar game plan. They have a quick and athletic secondary that knows how to tackle. They should be able to keep the Colts receivers in front of them. When the Colts get into Chiefs territory, Flowers, Carr, Berry and Lewis should be able to tighten up enough to hold the Colts to some FG’s. When the Chiefs have the ball they have to take advantage of Indi’s 29th ranked run defense. The Colts are giving up an average of 141.3 yards per game while the Chiefs are averaging 160.7 yards rushing. This won’t be a repeat of the 2007 Wild Card Playoffs. Bob Sanders isn’t coming back. The Colts aren’t going to suddenly learn how to stop the run. If the Chiefs can gash the Colts on the ground they should be able to score without Matt Cassel needing to throw for 400 yards. The Chiefs will have to be opportunistic. They won’t be able to turn the ball over and they had better continue to avoid penalties. If they can do these things I think the Chiefs have a legitimate shot at shocking the world. A couple of special teams touchdowns wouldn’t hurt either. http://arrowheadaddict.com/2010/09/3...eat-the-colts/ It'd be a lot easier if we could have Bernie "Flashdance" Pollard for just one play. [Which would make Curtis Painter our starting QB next year. ] Last edited by T-post Tom; 09-30-2010 at 10:19 PM..
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I think we need to start using more 4 receiver sets with Charles and McCluster both in the game...pick your poison with those two and try to get one open in space. Seriously...I wouldn't be opposed one bit to the Chiefs using Charles more like the Saints use Bush...except with more carries of course...but shit...no reason why TJ and JC can't be in the game at the same time...even McCluster, too. So many options with these dynamic playmakers...
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