Football Sacking vs Pressuring the QB. Which is better (or more effective)? - Page 3

Fritz88 · 10-02-2010, 02:39 PM

I saw a segment on NFLN that caught my eye. Woodson asks Dick Lebeau about which is better and Dick said that it's pretty simple, pressuring is much better and more productive (for a defense).

Here's the video (the question starts :51 seconds in.

Does that make Tamba Hali much better than what some presume him now? Maybe pushes him to be on the verge of being an Elite Pass rusher?

keg in kc · 10-02-2010, 04:51 PM

That would work if masturbation wasn't there to confuse things.

Psyko Tek · 10-02-2010, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Maybe it would be better to ask sometyhing like:

Would you rather have consistent pressure and hurries (with no sacks) etc...or 1-2 sacks in a game and not much pressure otherwise....

The way you asked the question it is a no brainer -- a sack is obviously better.

I think the question is wrong
sacks or hurries would be more valid

with a hurry the Qb is not doing what HE wants he's doing what we has to

**Bob Dole** · 10-02-2010, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Psyko Tek

I think the question is wrong
sacks or hurries would be more valid

with a hurry the Qb is not doing what HE wants he's doing what we has to and stuffs

FYP

Psyko Tek · 10-02-2010, 06:03 PM

pressure= foreplay
hurry = sex
sack = orgasm

sack with int = blow job

sack with pick 6 = blow job from her and her friend ( know the hot one with the ass)

**Rain Man** · 10-02-2010, 06:32 PM

I saw that and laughed out loud at Lebeau's answer. Basically he said, "Pressure is more important. If you get pressure, you're also going to get some sacks."

If I remember my set theory from seventh grade math, if you get sacks, you're always going to get pressure. If you get pressure, you're sometimes going to get sacks. The whole question is dumb. Sacks are a subset of pressure and produce a better result, so no one except Lebeau and maybe Greg Robinson would prefer pressure over sacks.

**Rain Man** · 10-02-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Psyko Tek

pressure= foreplay
hurry = sex
sack = orgasm

sack with int = blow job

sack with pick 6 = blow job from her and her friend ( know the hot one with the ass)

Spinner defense = viewing of Schindler's list at a senior center.

crispystl · 10-02-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I saw that and laughed out loud at Lebeau's answer. Basically he said, "Pressure is more important. If you get pressure, you're also going to get some sacks."

If I remember my set theory from seventh grade math, if you get sacks, you're always going to get pressure. If you get pressure, you're sometimes going to get sacks. The whole question is dumb. Sacks are a subset of pressure and produce a better result, so no one except Lebeau and maybe Greg Robinson would prefer pressure over sacks.

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Pioli Zombie · 10-02-2010, 07:04 PM

I don't understand what's to comprehend here. Consistant pressure can effect every play. If you're very lucky you'll get 5 or 6 sacks. I'd rather see that my defense pressured a guy all game then to see they got 6 sacks from 15 pressures. Duh.

Pioli Zombie · 10-02-2010, 07:08 PM

Rain Mans theory makes sense only if you expect your defense to get 55 sacks a game.
But what do Dick LeBeau and Greg Robinson know anyways. They only win Super Bowls, while Rain Man is a true football genius.

Pioli Zombie · 10-02-2010, 07:18 PM

Apologies for mistake in previous posts. I mixed up the Gregs. Thinking of Williams not Robinson. In any case, pressure every play that leads to sacks anyway is a hell of a lot more important than 5 sacks.

**Ming the Merciless** · 10-02-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

I'd rather see that my defense pressured a guy all game then to see they got 6 sacks from 15 pressures. Duh.

I will take the 6 sacks and 9 additional pressures...that is 15 pass plays disrupted and 6 HUGE plays.

googlegoogle · 10-02-2010, 07:31 PM

Pressure on each snap FTW.

RippedmyFlesh · 10-02-2010, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Rain Mans theory makes sense only if you expect your defense to get 55 sacks a game.
But what do Dick LeBeau and Greg Robinson know anyways. They only win Super Bowls, while Rain Man is a true football genius.

LeBeau and Robinson don't belong in the same sentence.

LOCOChief · 10-02-2010, 08:01 PM

A sack can be a result of the qb hanging onto the ball to long, maybe pushing it to the limit of what the defense is allowing.

Pressure is dictated by the defense alone regardless of qb play.

**grandllama** · 10-02-2010, 08:38 PM

Kinda the sparkling wine analogy...

all Champagne is sparkling wine, but not all sparkling wine is Champagne...

all sacks are pressure, but not all pressures are sacks.

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Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-722449 VARSITY	I saw that and laughed out loud at Lebeau's answer. Basically he said, "Pressure is more important. If you get pressure, you're also going to get some sacks." If I remember my set theory from seventh grade math, if you get sacks, you're always going to get pressure. If you get pressure, you're sometimes going to get sacks. The whole question is dumb. Sacks are a subset of pressure and produce a better result, so no one except Lebeau and maybe Greg Robinson would prefer pressure over sacks. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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Pioli Zombie Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: olathe,kansas Casino cash: $10004900	I don't understand what's to comprehend here. Consistant pressure can effect every play. If you're very lucky you'll get 5 or 6 sacks. I'd rather see that my defense pressured a guy all game then to see they got 6 sacks from 15 pressures. Duh.
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Pioli Zombie Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: olathe,kansas Casino cash: $10004900	Rain Mans theory makes sense only if you expect your defense to get 55 sacks a game. But what do Dick LeBeau and Greg Robinson know anyways. They only win Super Bowls, while Rain Man is a true football genius.
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Pioli Zombie Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: olathe,kansas Casino cash: $10004900	Apologies for mistake in previous posts. I mixed up the Gregs. Thinking of Williams not Robinson. In any case, pressure every play that leads to sacks anyway is a hell of a lot more important than 5 sacks.
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LOCOChief True Chiefs Fan Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bull Bay Casino cash: $6605791	A sack can be a result of the qb hanging onto the ball to long, maybe pushing it to the limit of what the defense is allowing. Pressure is dictated by the defense alone regardless of qb play. Last edited by LOCOChief; 10-02-2010 at 08:14 PM..
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grandllama Hi, I'm Llama Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Colts Hell Casino cash: $10004900	Kinda the sparkling wine analogy... all Champagne is sparkling wine, but not all sparkling wine is Champagne... all sacks are pressure, but not all pressures are sacks. __________________ How to I put something here?
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