NFL Draft Even while McCluster succeeds, this continues to be my concern about that pick... - Page 5

Direckshun · 10-04-2010, 03:07 PM

He is a gadget guy, yes. Who can provide tons of different things for your offense. And he's someone who can contribute immediately.

But is he someone you can build around?

I hesitate still, even now, to say yes.

What's the track record of really small football players in the NFL?

Don't they typically peter out after a few years? Even if they are very good -- as Sproles, a thicker back than McCluster, was very good -- won't they eventually flame out in a few years, rather than providing the sustained level of ability that virtually any other position on the football field would?

I am prepared to endure your scorn.

-King- · 10-04-2010, 05:18 PM

The weeks before the draft:

Drafturbators: "NEVER DRAFT FOR NEED! WE NEED PLAY MAKERS! WE DON'T HAVE TALENT! WE NEED PLAYMAKERS!!!!!!!!!"

......*Pioli drafts playmakers*

The weeks after the draft:

"WTF? WE HAVE MUCH BIGGER NEEDS! DO YOU NOT SEE THE NEEDS WE FAILED TO ADDRESS! WE SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED FOR NEED! WTF?"

Fish · 10-04-2010, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

The weeks before the draft:

Drafturbators: "NEVER DRAFT FOR NEED! WE NEED PLAY MAKERS! WE DON'T HAVE TALENT! WE NEED PLAYMAKERS!!!!!!!!!"

......*Pioli drafts playmakers*

The weeks after the draft:

"WTF? WE HAVE MUCH BIGGER NEEDS! DO YOU NOT SEE THE NEEDS WE FAILED TO ADDRESS! WE SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED FOR NEED! WTF?"

Huh? I don't remember that...

Please name of these Drafturbators you're calling out. I'd like to look into this.

Knob · 10-04-2010, 05:21 PM

Brock · 10-04-2010, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

Huh? I don't remember that...

Please name of these Drafturbators you're calling out. I'd like to look into this.

Not interested in naming names, but that's actually pretty accurate.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-04-2010, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

The weeks before the draft:

Drafturbators: "NEVER DRAFT FOR NEED! WE NEED PLAY MAKERS! WE DON'T HAVE TALENT! WE NEED PLAYMAKERS!!!!!!!!!"

......*Pioli drafts playmakers*

The weeks after the draft:

"WTF? WE HAVE MUCH BIGGER NEEDS! DO YOU NOT SEE THE NEEDS WE FAILED TO ADDRESS! WE SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED FOR NEED! WTF?"

Strawman much?

I mean, it's not like there weren't playmakers at positions of greater need available.

But you knew that. It's just easier for you to mis-represent the facts.

In all honesty, I'm sick of the argument. I'm just going to enjoy the wins until the problems we didn't address rear their heads.

In a perfect world, it never happens.

Brock · 10-04-2010, 05:25 PM

Well, I heard tons of crap about how drafting McCluster and Arenas was like "putting 1000 dollar rims on a pinto" or some such shit.

**petegz28** · 10-04-2010, 05:27 PM

Yeah, when he caught that pass from Cassel on the curl route, made a guy miss than darted 20+ more yards for a TD....THAT was as gadget as it gets.

Chiefshrink · 10-04-2010, 05:31 PM

A gadget player IMO is only 1 dimensional(e.g Dante Hall) Hall couldn't take a hit as a WR or slot or block for that matter. He was a return man only. McCluster is far more than that and is our version of Wes Welker with a little more speed.

We needed playmakers on Offense with serious speed. Speed kills and you can never have enough of it. I have no problem with Dex as our 2nd pick.

MadMax · 10-04-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

You seem to write this as if there is a point this or any team could reach where every move is not questioned.

Don't be silly.

Maybe he is right Zach! Just maybe. You cannot say honestly that we would not be better off with Sanchez at QB??? Just askin. Hell I kinda like the picks we got last draft, but I will Always question his reeruned love for Cassell and all things Patriot.

**The Bad Guy** · 10-04-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Bottom line, until we fix the QB position we're on the outside looking in so moves will be questioned.

So basically, you don't want to get playmakers for the QB that sucks.

Got it.

That's like saying, we are ignoring the infield defense in baseball until we get Roy Halladay.

Pioli Zombie · 10-04-2010, 05:40 PM

Oh DO shut up. Everybody pisses and moans that they the Chiefs don't get playmakers. Then they get one and its "ooooh I dunno I ah-scared"

-King- · 10-04-2010, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

So basically, you don't want to get playmakers for the QB that sucks.

Got it.

That's like saying, we are ignoring the infield defense in baseball until we get Roy Halladay.

The Seattle Sonics on draft day: Um, lets not draft Durant. We don't have a center yet.

chief4life · 10-04-2010, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

Not really... that's kinda why we're having this discussion. You saying he'll be great for a long time doesn't make it so.

I swear some Chiefs fans are only capable of one single emotion at a time. The thought of being ecstatic with the progress of the team, yet at the same time wanting to discuss the long term future shouldn't overload your brain to the point of all caps and multiple exclamation points.

"SHUT UP YOU HAVE TO BE HAPPY SINCE WE WON GAMES." doesn't make for a very good conversation.

What the hell you talking about no one knows what he will be 3 or 4 years from now. But from what i have seen this kid will only get better. Is he there yet no, but like i said before the sky is the limit for this kid. I think they are going to mold him into a Wes Welker mold. But the reason people are excited because he has just started to hit his potential. When he has the ability to run routes with his speed and cut ability is why people are drooling. Because they see the potential this kid has.

Hootie · 10-04-2010, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

So basically, you don't want to get playmakers for the QB that sucks.

Got it.

That's like saying, we are ignoring the infield defense in baseball until we get Roy Halladay.

the quicker we all learn that mecca isn't a Chiefs fan, just a troll...the better

-King- · 10-04-2010, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MadMax

Maybe he is right Zach! Just maybe. You cannot say honestly that we would not be better off with Sanchez at QB??? Just askin. Hell I kinda like the picks we got last draft, but I will Always question his reeruned love for Cassell and all things Patriot.

Are you still planning on sucking your own cock?

10-04-2010, 03:07 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Even while McCluster succeeds, this continues to be my concern about that pick... He is a gadget guy, yes. Who can provide tons of different things for your offense. And he's someone who can contribute immediately. But is he someone you can build around? I hesitate still, even now, to say yes. What's the track record of really small football players in the NFL? Don't they typically peter out after a few years? Even if they are very good -- as Sproles, a thicker back than McCluster, was very good -- won't they eventually flame out in a few years, rather than providing the sustained level of ability that virtually any other position on the football field would? I am prepared to endure your scorn.
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