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Strong Passing, Strong Rushing, Weak Defense 1 2.00%
Strong Passing, Weak Rushing, Strong Defense 27 54.00%
Weak Passing, Strong Rushing, Strong Defense 22 44.00%
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Old 10-04-2010, 07:42 PM   #1
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The last two teams to win a Super Bowl did so with a great QB and very good/great defense (Pitt) as well as an opportunistic defense (NO)

On top of that, their opponents also had great QBs. And none of the four teams were dominant rushing teams whatsoever.
I mentioned this last week, and think it is worth bringing up again. The NFL... like most sports... is cyclic. Defenses are being built to stop the dominate passing game. Once those defenses are all built, the trend will bend back around to the running game. And for once, it appears that our own Kansas City Chiefs could belong to the trend setting group as opposed to being nearly the last one in a long line of followers as we have been for nearly our entire history.

I still long for a franchise QB, but am content in the mean time watching what is unfolding before our eyes.
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Old 10-04-2010, 07:44 PM   #2
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I mentioned this last week, and think it is worth bringing up again. The NFL... like most sports... is cyclic. Defenses are being built to stop the dominate passing game. Once those defenses are all built, the trend will bend back around to the running game. And for once, it appears that our own Kansas City Chiefs could belong to the trend setting group as opposed to being nearly the last one in a long line of followers as we have been for nearly our entire history.

I still long for a franchise QB, but am content in the mean time watching what is unfolding before our eyes.
Cyclical? So it will be a return to when the franchise QB was less important? Like in the 80's or 70's?
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Old 10-04-2010, 07:49 PM   #3
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Cyclical? So it will be a return to when the franchise QB was less important? Like in the 80's or 70's?
I like the idea of a franchise QB. But they also require franchise WR's to be successful.
Montana had Rice
Peyton had Harrison
Elway had Rod Smith and Sharpe
Warner had Fitzgerald, Bruce and Holt
Aikman had Irvin

etc., etc.

Granted a great QB can make an avg WR a good WR

And all of them save Peyton and Warner with AZ had elite RB's, Davis, Smith, Faulk
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:00 PM   #4
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I like the idea of a franchise QB. But they also require franchise WR's to be successful.
And it's always best to build the offensive line before even thinking about acquiring a top QB, though I suppose we could "save" him.
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Cyclical? So it will be a return to when the franchise QB was less important? Like in the 80's or 70's?
I think we once proved beyond all shadow of all doubt that scoring "first" or "early" was a major key to success in the NFL. Plus, with all the Manning Rules the league has installed in the last 5 or 6 years, the game favors the QB and the pass, that's for sure. Given all that, it makes sense that a team would want a quarterback who is accurate, has a quick release, and is, preferably, somewhat mobile.

But, if a team can get good pressure, field a solid secondary, win the field position battle (forcing long drives to score), and control the clock with the rush, you may not cancel out the pass, but you can minimize its effectiveness. It's happening more and more ... even so far in this season.

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I think we once proved beyond all shadow of all doubt that scoring "first" or "early" was a major key to success in the NFL. Plus, with all the Manning Rules the league has installed in the last 5 or 6 years, the game favors the QB and the pass, that's for sure. Given all that, it makes sense that a team would want a quarterback who is accurate, has a quick release, and is, preferably, somewhat mobile.

But, if a team can get good pressure, field a solid secondary, win the field position battle (forcing long drives to score), and control the clock with the rush, you may not cancel out the pass, but you can minimize its effectiveness. It's happening more and more ... even so far in this season.

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Granted last year is an exception, I think a top defense is where it all starts to getting to the SB
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Granted last year is an exception, I think a top defense is where it all starts to getting to the SB
Agreed. That and having an offense that can chew up the clock and keep the Mannings of the world parked on the sideline is the ticket to beating those type of teams. Now having a QB competent enough to drive the team to a late TD if need be would be nice... but maybe in time.
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Agreed. That and having an offense that can chew up the clock and keep the Mannings of the world parked on the sideline is the ticket to beating those type of teams.
Like the Jets and Ravens in the playoffs last year?
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Like the Jets and Ravens in the playoffs last year?
Yep! Just like that!
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I mentioned this last week, and think it is worth bringing up again. The NFL... like most sports... is cyclic. Defenses are being built to stop the dominate passing game. Once those defenses are all built, the trend will bend back around to the running game. And for once, it appears that our own Kansas City Chiefs could belong to the trend setting group as opposed to being nearly the last one in a long line of followers as we have been for nearly our entire history.

I still long for a franchise QB, but am content in the mean time watching what is unfolding before our eyes.
Setting the trend by being one of the 15 teams to run a 3-4?

FWIW, I agree that it's a copycat league, but it's not necessarily a cyclical league. The league has gotten progressively more pass happy the last 50 years and the rules continue to favor the pass.
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