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Old 10-28-2010, 08:57 AM  
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NFL.com breaks down Moeaki's great blocking

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Old 10-28-2010, 12:13 PM   #16
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Old 10-28-2010, 12:31 PM   #17
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You dont trade multiple picks for tight ends...**** we gave up a 4th and fifth rounder for this guy FML /cp
You especially don't do it for the 17th ranked TE in the draft!
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Old 10-28-2010, 12:47 PM   #18
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We moved up 9 spots to get Tony. We lost our 4th round pick to do this. That's not a huge sacrifice by any means.
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Old 10-28-2010, 12:48 PM   #19
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So, you're saying the same thing everyone else said.

People bitched about the pick because he couldn't stay healthy in college, not because of a lack of talent.

But why let the facts get in the way?
In fact, I recall many complained not so much about Moeaki, but rather that there were a number of good tight ends still on the board so that we probably didn't need to trade up.

That complaint seems pretty legit now, because we can look at Aaron Hernandez who was taken in the 4th round by the Pats.
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Old 10-28-2010, 12:51 PM   #20
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In fact, I recall many complained not so much about Moeaki, but rather that there were a number of good tight ends still on the board so that we probably didn't need to trade up.

That complaint seems pretty legit now, because we can look at Aaron Hernandez who was taken in the 4th round by the Pats.
You're absolutely correct.

I don't recall anyone disputing his talent.

I do, however, recall people not being thrilled that we traded up, when we could have had him, or someone as talented with our original pick. And people were concerned that he missed something like 26 of Iowa's 52 games while he was there.

And there were people that weren't thrilled with the fact that the regime had traded up to take a TE two years running.
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Old 10-28-2010, 12:53 PM   #21
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In fact, I recall many complained not so much about Moeaki, but rather that there were a number of good tight ends still on the board so that we probably didn't need to trade up.

That complaint seems pretty legit now, because we can look at Aaron Hernandez who was taken in the 4th round by the Pats.
I complained because we didn't appear to be addressing the WR position, offensive line, or defensive line.

Then we draft a JV Gonzo who's always injured.
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Old 10-28-2010, 01:28 PM   #22
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You're absolutely correct.

I don't recall anyone disputing his talent.

I do, however, recall people not being thrilled that we traded up, when we could have had him, or someone as talented with our original pick. And people were concerned that he missed something like 26 of Iowa's 52 games while he was there.

And there were people that weren't thrilled with the fact that the regime had traded up to take a TE two years running.
I think it's getting close to time for you to start apologizing for your draft day meltdown this year.

Anyone hear from Mecca lately? Or are the Chiefs too good this year?
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Old 10-28-2010, 01:32 PM   #23
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Old 10-28-2010, 01:34 PM   #24
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In 22 games Pioli has turned the Chiefs into one of the best teams in the NFL...

and really...there is no disputing that...name 8 teams better than the Chiefs. Name 5...

People still want to give Herm and Kurarich the credit...sure, they brought talented players to this team...no doubt...

But how much of it has been coaching by Haley and the assistants?

did DJ ever play as good as he's playing now? Hali?

Has Bowe ever been as focused?

They changed the entire culture of this team...for the better. Pioli drafted talented players this year with winning attitudes...and it's paying huge dividends.

Hamas Jenkins struck Pioli out 9,000 times last year...

So far he had a weak draft in 2009 where EVERYONE seemed to have a pretty weak draft...

and then he followed it up with what appears to be a LEGENDARY draft class...

and suddenly we're a top team in the AFC...

and if Cassel keeps improving the way he has been improving...and the confidence builds...and we start getting more from that position...

with our crowd and our homefield we can go a long way this year...

and Pioli is responsible...

and has anyone noticed how quite our drafturbators have been this year???

They know they screwed the pooch on Pioli...they gave him ZERO TIME to do anything...and now look...

Guess there was a reason he was the executive of the decade, after all...
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Old 10-28-2010, 01:45 PM   #25
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Well atleast OTWP was right about McCluster...

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Gilyard is a better WR and KR than the guy we took 70 picks ago.
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Old 10-28-2010, 01:47 PM   #26
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So, you're saying the same thing everyone else said.

People bitched about the pick because he couldn't stay healthy in college, not because of a lack of talent.

But why let the facts get in the way?
This is true about some posters...others lambasted the kid over and over before and after the draft saying over and over "the guy is no better than the 17th ranked tight end in this class on ANY draft site"

Well before the draft I had multiple arguments with many posters here about his ability to be a total player. I compare(d) him to Visante Shiancoe as a receiver (and got laughed at for my efforts, just wait till Cassel develops, or we get a real quarterback in here he will be a deadly weapon in the passing game) and he is one of the best tight ends in the NFL as a blocker. I pointed out over and over how well he helped shut down Derrick Morgan in their bowl game while having a damn good receiving game and helping for us seal the edge on running plays all in the same bowl game.

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We moved up 9 spots to get Tony. We lost our 4th round pick to do this. That's not a huge sacrifice by any means.
We lost our fourth rounder and a late fifth rounder in the trade for a player that could very well be a perennial probowl player if he is able to avoid the fluke injuries he suffered in college.

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You're absolutely correct.

I don't recall anyone disputing his talent.

I do, however, recall people not being thrilled that we traded up, when we could have had him, or someone as talented with our original pick. And people were concerned that he missed something like 26 of Iowa's 52 games while he was there.

And there were people that weren't thrilled with the fact that the regime had traded up to take a TE two years running.
haha

if you still think that there were multiple other "just as talented" players available there, you don't watch blocking very much and just care about the receptions a tight end gets.

Put Moeaki on the Patriots and he would look like a much better player overall than Hernandez, which is a receiving tight end, not a complete player.

...

Also, I cant believe you guys still bitch about Pioli trading a future seventh round pick to get back into the 7th round of last years draft to take a player with a good size/speed ratio for a position of need. You cant win em all (or in the case of the 2009 draft, you cant win at all)

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So far, Tony Moeaki has been our best draft pick!
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Old 10-28-2010, 01:49 PM   #27
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And I know GoChiefs loves to bump drafturbator posts...so...

...After finding out what we gave up for Moeaki

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Fire Pioli now. Just ****ing reboot this shit, Clark.
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Pioli is a buffoon. There is no way around it at this point.
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Old 10-28-2010, 01:50 PM   #28
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Well atleast OTWP was right about McCluster...


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and has anyone noticed how quite our drafturbators have been this year???

This has been the biggest surprise....
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Ok...I think the draft thread just goes to show you that no matter what....nobody on this forum knows WTF they're doing. Mecca just looks like a ****ing dumbass looking through his posts.
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