Chiefs Late night bullshit: our lines. - Page 3

Direckshun · 10-28-2010, 01:03 AM

I've been watching game tape tonight of the 49ers game, the Texans game, and the Jags game.

Two comments:

I'm loving our offensive line. Albert, Waters, Wiegmann, and Lilja move in space as if they were linebackers. There's no "I'm a 300 pound gargantuan" to how they run and move. Lilja especially -- what a steal this guy was. He is playing like a Pro Bowler in this offense. Wiegmann has been impressive too, but he's been our best pickup of the entire offseason. He misses absolutely nothing at the LOS in picking up passrushing. We have all the talent we need on the line, but he's the reason we're #1 in sack prevention.

People have asked why we are so good in run defense but so poor in pass defense. The answer is simple: our DL isn't versatile enough just yet. Our DL lineup of Dorsey, Edwards, and Smith, is a lineup of three defensive tackles. That means, on most downs we play, we're featuring three defensive tackles.

That means it's going to be a beast to run against them. That's a lot of beef to move. But their passrushing is going to be lackluster, to say the least. Edwards can get in the backfield once a game pretty reliably, but that's it. Shaun Smith has been a good addition for this team and plays very hard between whistles but his passrushing is pathetic. He's a nose, not an end. Dorsey can get into the backfield, however.

That's why Jackson's development is so important, and why the DE in a 3-4 is so important. You need to be stout enough against the run while also having the quickness and moves to get into the backfield on passing downs. That's why Tyson Jackson desperately needs to develop, or we need to consider other options to lock that down.

Because that is going to get us slaughtered in the playoffs. It is a dead end if our defensive line cannot get in the backfield.

**Rausch** · 10-28-2010, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo

I can get behind that.

There's a lot of undue aggressive posting on this board.

DON'T YOU ****ING JUDGE THE NATURE OR VALIDITY OF MY AGGRESSION!1!

KCDC · 10-28-2010, 12:58 PM

Dane may have been wrong about the 3-0 start and Lilja (and is the only CPer to neg rep me), but he was one of the first to applaud the 2010 draft of playmakers in the second round when it was a very unpopular position to take at the time on these boards. I think time will continue to vindicate both picks.

Marcellus · 10-28-2010, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KCDC

Dane may have been wrong about the 3-0 start and Lilja (and is the only CPer to neg rep me), but he was one of the first to applaud the 2010 draft of playmakers in the second round when it was a very unpopular position to take at the time on these boards. I think time will continue to vindicate both picks.

He has also been much mellower lately.

Still doesn't change the fact he was completely wrong and was an asshole about it.

Fritz88 · 10-28-2010, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Lilja is washed up and sucks. I read it here.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=224553

and here

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=224603 This one has some jems.

My fave.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-28-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Lilja is washed up and sucks. I read it here.

Marcellus is up to his old tricks again, I see.

Lilja was signed to a cheap contract and no one else was interested in signing him. I thought he was done, due to missing the 2008 season and after he was cut by Indy less than one year after signing a contract extension.

Not only has he proven me wrong, but he's proven 31 other GM's wrong as well. There are plenty of teams in need of starting offensive line help that would have lined up to sign him with no signing bonus and only $2 million a year had they known he would play like he's played.

The Chiefs also drafted Asamoah in the third round as a potential starting right guard. So clearly, the Chiefs were covering their ass in case Lilja wouldn't perform at a high level.

So far, I'd say he's exceeded expectations but let's not pretend this was a slam dunk signing.

Marcellus · 10-28-2010, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Marcellus is up to his old tricks again, I see.

Lilja was signed to a cheap contract and no one else was interested in signing him. I thought he was done, due to missing the 2008 season and after he was cut by Indy less than one year after signing a contract extension.

Not only has he proven me wrong, but he's proven 31 other GM's wrong as well. There are plenty of teams in need of starting offensive line help that would have lined up to sign him with no signing bonus and only $2 million a year had they known he would play like he's played.

The Chiefs also drafted Asamoah in the third round as a potential starting right guard. So clearly, the Chiefs were covering their ass in case Lilja wouldn't perform at a high level.

So far, I'd say he's exceeded expectations but let's not pretend this was a slam dunk signing.

Old tricks? Not sure what you mean there?

Slam dunk? Nobody is saying that.

Someone was saying some Chiefs fans are, and I quote, "reeruned", and that some fans, and I quote "needed to get a clue".

Nothing wrong with being wrong unless you a total asshole when trying like hell to shove your opinion down everyone's throat as if it were fact.

You deserve all the crow served to you.

Your next comment will be **** you and at least I have an opinion,

My response will be I also have an opinion go back and look it up.

Now we can stop.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-28-2010, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

He has also been much mellower lately.

Still doesn't change the fact he was completely wrong and was an asshole about it.

No, YOU'RE the asshole.

Funny how you like to point out, do searches and blah, blah, blah to prove me somehow "wrong", but when I'm right about something, like let's say, the Casey Weigman signing, you somehow disappear.

I don't even think you're a Chiefs fan: I think you're a lonely asshole who's only reason for posting in Chiefsplanet berate other members. You rarely offer an opinion and when you do, it's unusually idiotic and unfounded.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-28-2010, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Old tricks? Not sure what you mean there?

Slam dunk? Nobody is saying that.

Someone was saying some Chiefs fans are, and I quote, "reeruned", and that some fans, and I quote "needed to get a clue".

Nothing wrong with being wrong unless you a total asshole when trying like hell to shove your opinion down everyone's throat as if it were fact.

You deserve all the crow served to you.

Your next comment will be **** you and at least I have an opinion,

My response will be I also have an opinion go back and look it up.

Now we can stop.

Well, you stupid Mother****er, go ahead and "look up" the fact that I praised Lilja in the preaseason and after the first game, stating that he was the best performing offensive lineman at that time and that I was wrong about how much he had left in the tank.

And then, go **** yourself. Without me or the other "Horseman", no one knows or gives a **** about you.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-28-2010, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Wow that's some ownage.

Look there are some guys I have learned flat out, whatever they say, expect the complete opposite 90% of the time.

OnTheShitPath58

Mecca

Dane

There are others. But these guys take the proverbial dumbassery clown cake when it comes to their takes on the Chiefs.

Oh, just **** you. You're dumbassery knows no bounds.

Lilja has played well. That was never an issue. His issue has been about his health and through six games, he's been healthy.

If the Chiefs thought that Lilja was the answer for the next 3-4 years at right guard, they wouldn't have drafted Asamoah with their first 3rd round pick.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-28-2010, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Old tricks? Not sure what you mean there?

Slam dunk? Nobody is saying that.

Someone was saying some Chiefs fans are, and I quote, "reeruned", and that some fans, and I quote "needed to get a clue".

Why did the Chiefs draft Jon Asamoah, a four year starter at right guard with their first 3rd round pick, barely a month after acquiring Lilja to play right guard?

Marcellus · 10-28-2010, 06:11 PM

Lmao. Script played to a T. You realize how easy you are to **** with right?

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-28-2010, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Lmao. Script played to a T. You realize how easy you are to **** with right?

And do you realize how thin-skinned you are?

I find it quite hilarious that you take football forum smack to heart, so much so that you take time out of your day to "prove" people wrong.

You're such a ****in' loser.

yhf · 10-28-2010, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No, YOU'RE the asshole.

I don't even think you're a Chiefs fan: I think you're a lonely asshole who's only reason for posting in Chiefsplanet berate other members. You rarely offer an opinion and when you do, it's unusually idiotic and unfounded.

Not really trying be hateful towards ya Dane (I think you have been surprisingly pleasant lately).

But... Uh... Pot, meet Kettle.

cosmo20002 · 10-28-2010, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I've been watching game tape tonight of the 49ers game, the Texans game, and the Jags game.

How bored are you?

-King- · 10-28-2010, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No, YOU'RE the asshole.

Funny how you like to point out, do searches and blah, blah, blah to prove me somehow "wrong", but when I'm right about something, like let's say, the Casey Weigman signing, you somehow disappear.

I don't even think you're a Chiefs fan: I think you're a lonely asshole who's only reason for posting in Chiefsplanet berate other members. You rarely offer an opinion and when you do, it's unusually idiotic and unfounded.

Dane, I like you, but as I've said many times before...you're like the walking definition of irony.

10-28-2010, 01:03 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Late night bullshit: our lines. I've been watching game tape tonight of the 49ers game, the Texans game, and the Jags game. Two comments: I'm loving our offensive line. Albert, Waters, Wiegmann, and Lilja move in space as if they were linebackers. There's no "I'm a 300 pound gargantuan" to how they run and move. Lilja especially -- what a steal this guy was. He is playing like a Pro Bowler in this offense. Wiegmann has been impressive too, but he's been our best pickup of the entire offseason. He misses absolutely nothing at the LOS in picking up passrushing. We have all the talent we need on the line, but he's the reason we're #1 in sack prevention. People have asked why we are so good in run defense but so poor in pass defense. The answer is simple: our DL isn't versatile enough just yet. Our DL lineup of Dorsey, Edwards, and Smith, is a lineup of three defensive tackles. That means, on most downs we play, we're featuring three defensive tackles. That means it's going to be a beast to run against them. That's a lot of beef to move. But their passrushing is going to be lackluster, to say the least. Edwards can get in the backfield once a game pretty reliably, but that's it. Shaun Smith has been a good addition for this team and plays very hard between whistles but his passrushing is pathetic. He's a nose, not an end. Dorsey can get into the backfield, however. That's why Jackson's development is so important, and why the DE in a 3-4 is so important. You need to be stout enough against the run while also having the quickness and moves to get into the backfield on passing downs. That's why Tyson Jackson desperately needs to develop, or we need to consider other options to lock that down. Because that is going to get us slaughtered in the playoffs. It is a dead end if our defensive line cannot get in the backfield.
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KCDC Starter Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $9616110	Dane may have been wrong about the 3-0 start and Lilja (and is the only CPer to neg rep me), but he was one of the first to applaud the 2010 draft of playmakers in the second round when it was a very unpopular position to take at the time on these boards. I think time will continue to vindicate both picks.
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Marcellus Diablo Negro Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $-467338	Lmao. Script played to a T. You realize how easy you are to **** with right?
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