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Old 10-28-2010, 08:57 AM  
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NFL.com breaks down Moeaki's great blocking
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Old 10-28-2010, 03:58 PM   #76
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Lmao who has said they weren't bad picks?
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:00 PM   #77
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:00 PM   #78
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Did you expect multiple picks from this draft that a franchise "can revolve around"
My first three picks in this draft would have been

Berry
Clausen
Cody

Now... you have a better chance of building around a stud safety, a quarterback, and an elite nose tackle, than you can a stud safety, a gadget player, and a returner/nickelback.

Now, however each of these players pans out over time is yet to be known. But not all positions were created equal, and I still feel like we spent our blue chips on white chip positions.
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:02 PM   #79
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You know what's funny? OTWP said that he loved the fact that the Lions chose a playmaker (J.Best) over a need. And the he gets mad that we chose playmakers over our needs.
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Best fit a need for Detroit, as Smith was coming off major knee surgery, and was the BPA at the time.

That's what I would have preferred at the time for us - the best available player at a position of need/value.

But this place will argue that KR's and NCB were a greater need than OLB, ILB and NT.

Guess we'll find out over the long term.

Like I've said a million times, I hope I'm wrong.
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My first three picks in this draft would have been

Berry
Clausen
Cody

Now... you have a better chance of building around a stud safety, a quarterback, and an elite nose tackle, than you can a stud safety, a gadget player, and a returner/nickelback.

Now, however each of these players pans out over time is yet to be known. But not all positions were created equal, and I still feel like we spent our blue chips on white chip positions.
I see what you are saying but you didn't answer the question. You flippantly said that there is only one guy a franchise can revolve around.

Do you think any team came from this years draft with multiple guys you can revolve a franchise around?
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:03 PM   #81
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You keep saying that, but don't bother to remind anyone who had to be off the board in order for me to want Spiller.

Quit acting as if Spiller was my first choice at 5.
the parameters were that we weren't gonna take a QB and Berry was off the board, you had Spiller rated as a A+ pick.

On a scale of 1-10, you rated it a 10 iirc.

Yet, somehow, you are pissed we took a very similar player at 36 though...that's my only point there. Same as it was the last time I brought it up.

You justified taking Spiller because he is not only a running back, he can also play wide out and return kicks.

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Do you read this place? I'm guessing not.

Seriously, I don't have time for your games.
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:05 PM   #83
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the parameters were that we weren't gonna take a QB and Berry was off the board, you had Spiller rated as a A+ pick.

On a scale of 1-10, you rated it a 10 iirc.

Yet, somehow, you are pissed we took a very similar player at 36 though...that's my only point there. Same as it was the last time I brought it up.

You justified taking Spiller because he is not only a running back, he can also play wide out and return kicks.

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Who else would have met the value of the 5th overall pick?

It basically comes down to Spiller and Okung in that situation.

Can't imagine why I'd choose Spiller.
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:06 PM   #84
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I see what you are saying but you didn't answer the question. You flippantly said that there is only one guy a franchise can revolve around.

Do you think any team came from this years draft with multiple guys you can revolve a franchise around?
I think several teams did.

My piece is here on Arrowhead Addict.
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:15 PM   #85
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Do you read this place? I'm guessing not.

Seriously, I don't have time for your games.
He is talking about Cassel and Jackson....I think you are misunderstand him as talking about Arenas and DMC...
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Who else would have met the value of the 5th overall pick?

It basically comes down to Spiller and Okung in that situation.

Can't imagine why I'd choose Spiller.
Guys that would have been a better value over Spiller (when we already had Charles and Jones at RB)

Earl Thomas - give Billay some credit here, he called this kid the way he saw him, he looks to be a damn good player early on. Great with the ball in the air.
Brandon Graham -would be giving us that pass rush threat opposite Hali that we need
Dez Bryant -WR opposite Bowe that can make a play and has #1 potential

All three would be impact players on this team while Spiller would be playing the exact role DMC is currently playing...

Oh yeah, and Tony Moeaki is a ****ing STUD of a late third round draft pick!

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Old 10-28-2010, 04:17 PM   #86
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Spiller was someone I would have liked at #5 overall.

I don't know why that's controversial with True Fans.

I could have taken Spiller at #5 and then Nate Allen with our 2a, and True Fans would be up in arms.

But switch those players by taking Berry first and then McCluster second, and it's genious?
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I like Spiller, but Spiller at 5 would have made zero sense.
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Spiller was someone I would have liked at #5 overall.

I don't know why that's controversial with True Fans.

I could have taken Spiller at #5 and then Nate Allen with our 2a, and True Fans would be up in arms.

But switch those players by taking Berry first and then McCluster second, and it's genious?
Dude, you LOVED the 2009 draft and hated the 2010 draft, your opinion here on who is and isn't a true fan is unneeded.

Go play with your Tyson Jackson doll.
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Spiller was someone I would have liked at #5 overall.

I don't know why that's controversial with True Fans.

I could have taken Spiller at #5 and then Nate Allen with our 2a, and True Fans would be up in arms.

But switch those players by taking Berry first and then McCluster second, and it's genious?
You've got me, dude.
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Dude, you LOVED the 2009 draft and hated the 2010 draft, your opinion here on who is and isn't a true fan is unneeded.

Go play with your Tyson Jackson doll.
I really liked it, yes. I didn't like the 2010 draft, yes. I don't know why that disqualifies me from anything?

I'm a foundational guy. I like drafting for foundation. Blue chips spent on blue chip positions.

The 2009 draft was all about that. The 2010 draft was not.
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