Ten Things About Today's Game

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I get that we have to pass every once in a while.

What kills me is how many freaking times we pass on a running down. Stop getting cute--when it's 3rd or 4th and short, run the damn ball. Even worse that on many of those plays, we lined up in the shotgun.

I disagree with the idea that you should run the ball on every third or fourth and short.

I do think, however, that lining up in a shotgun is not a good idea.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by milkman

I disagree with the idea that you should run the ball on every third or fourth and short.

I do think, however, that lining up in a shotgun is not a good idea.

I don't know. I think if you're going to go for it on 4th down WITH THIS TEAM, you better be able to get it with the run. Cassel just isn't consistent enough. If you have Manning, sure, throw the ball. But Jesus. RUN THE BALL. Really, the only pass I'd like to see on 4th is getting the ball to McCluster or Charles out of the backfield.

3rd down, yeah, pass to get someone off guard. If the situation is right, go for a dagger.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

I don't know. I think if you're going to go for it on 4th down WITH THIS TEAM, you better be able to get it with the run. Cassel just isn't consistent enough. If you have Manning, sure, throw the ball. But Jesus. RUN THE BALL. Really, the only pass I'd like to see on 4th is getting the ball to McCluster or Charles out of the backfield.

3rd down, yeah, pass to get someone off guard. If the situation is right, go for a dagger.

Against the Texans, the chiefs failed to convert 3rd or 4th and short on 4 of 7 plays running the ball.

They converted 6 of 8 attempts passing the ball in those same situations.

I have no problem with the idea of passing on either down, but do it out of a play action, which worked well against the Texans.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by milkman

Against the Texans, the chiefs failed to convert 3rd or 4th and short on 4 of 7 plays running the ball.

They converted 6 of 8 attempts passing the ball in those same situations.

I have no problem with the idea of passing on either down, but do it out of a play action, which worked well against the Texans.

I would like to do a playaction, bootleg which would give Dumbass Cassel an option to either throw it to the TE/FB running out in the flat, or Cassel doing his prancing dancing moves, just to be borderline short or barely getting the first down.

I think that odds has a better probability of succeeding than a run play right up behind the Guard's ass for the 14th time.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by milkman

Against the Texans, the chiefs failed to convert 3rd or 4th and short on 4 of 7 plays running the ball.

They converted 6 of 8 attempts passing the ball in those same situations.

I have no problem with the idea of passing on either down, but do it out of a play action, which worked well against the Texans.

I'm surprised they haven't used Battle more in these situations. I think he adds a dimension they never previously tried before and it's worked whenever we've used him. I also find it curious we don't sneak the ball more.

I agree that our line wasn't necessarily built for power running, but it seems like we try to get way too cute. If the Chiefs can be ultra successful up the middle when defenses are loading 8 to 9 in a box, I don't see why they couldn't be just as successful in short yardage situations.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I'm surprised they haven't used Battle more in these situations. I think he adds a dimension they never previously tried before and it's worked whenever we've used him. I also find it curious we don't sneak the ball more.

I agree that our line wasn't necessarily built for power running, but it seems like we try to get way too cute. If the Chiefs can be ultra successful up the middle when defenses are loading 8 to 9 in a box, I don't see why they couldn't be just as successful in short yardage situations.

In 3rd and short, these guys aren't simply in the box, they are lining up at the line.

It becomes a test of brute strength and sheer force.

[EyePod]

Originally Posted by milkman

Against the Texans, the chiefs failed to convert 3rd or 4th and short on 4 of 7 plays running the ball.

They converted 6 of 8 attempts passing the ball in those same situations.

I have no problem with the idea of passing on either down, but do it out of a play action, which worked well against the Texans.

Also, we don't need to throw the ball 30 yards on 3rd and 1. A simple 5 yard out, screen pass, or just a quick hitch would work just as well!

(Granted, JC was totally open and Cassel missed him. Also would like to point out that his throw to Bowe was a good one, but it was a solid defensive effort. Didn't get a good look as to when the guy started grabbing Bowe's arm though...).