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**Renegade** · 11-02-2010, 07:12 PM

Seeing Al Davis on TV last week got me thinking. Is he the last remaining original AFL owner that is 1) Still Alive and 2) The only one still an "active" owner of their franchise?

WilliamTheIrish · 11-02-2010, 08:11 PM

Al was the Managing General Partner of the franchise. At the beginning he was in for 10%. I believe there were a dozen other men in the general partnership at that time. 1963 or 1966.

Brock · 11-02-2010, 08:13 PM

He predictably snaked his way into 67 percent.

WilliamTheIrish · 11-02-2010, 08:15 PM

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He predictably snaked his way into 67 percent.

I have a book or two around that I've read about Al and when I just now reviewed his history on Wiki i was reminded of what shitball he was.

Frazod · 11-02-2010, 08:17 PM

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I think Davis is already dead.

Props to the crew that keep his corpse animated - sometimes he looks almost lifelike. I assume the got the people from Tales of the Crypt.

GloryDayz · 11-02-2010, 08:44 PM

F*** Al Davis. Al can die in a fire for all I care and his wooden teeth can burn with him... So, what was the question? Oh, yeah, he's old...

chief52 · 11-02-2010, 08:45 PM

Al Davis did not become the majority owner of the Raiders until 2005. While he was the face of the team ( Managing Partner ?) he was never the majority owner. McGaugh (sp?) was the most recent until his death and then the family and Davis fought out the value in court. Al Davis has been a minority owner.

Al Davis was not an original owner. Not a consideration with Hunt, Adams, Wilson...etc.

TEX · 11-02-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Renegade

Seeing Al Davis on TV last week got me thinking. Is he the last remaining original AFL owner that is 1) Still Alive and 2) The only one still an "active" owner of their franchise?

Bud Adams (Oilers / Titans) He's a prick but Lamar Hunt needed him to start the AFL.
Ralph Wilson (Bills)

LaChapelle · 11-02-2010, 09:11 PM

I would have sworn Ralph Wilson died this year

cardken · 11-02-2010, 09:18 PM

As "batshit" crazy Al Davis is, if it hadn't been for his Tenacity and Abrasiveness the AFL probably wouldn't have been such a problem for the NFL and wouldn't have been absorbed.
all interested parties should watch the HBO documentary, "AFL, Rebels With A Cause" fantastic information there. apparently When Mr. Hunt was negotiating with the NFL, the AFL was making little progress. So the AFL decided to vote Al Davis as Chief negotiator, the NFL knew there was no dealing with Davis and soon after the NFL caved and absorbed the AFL.

TEX · 11-02-2010, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cardken

As "batshit" crazy Al Davis is, if it hadn't been for his Tenacity and Abrasiveness the AFL probably wouldn't have been such a problem for the NFL and wouldn't have been absorbed.
all interested parties should watch the HBO documentary, "AFL, Rebels With A Cause" fantastic information there. apparently When Mr. Hunt was negotiating with the NFL, the AFL was making little progress. So the AFL decided to vote Al Davis as Chief negotiator, the NFL knew there was no dealing with Davis and soon after the NFL caved and absorbed the AFL.

I think it had more to do with the fact that after 4 Super Bowls the NFL and AFL were tied 2-2, with the AFL winning Super Bowl's 3 & 4. NO WAY the establashed NFL would take the chance that the upstart AFL would get the advantage in Super Bowl 5, so they merged...

**cdcox** · 11-02-2010, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cardken

As "batshit" crazy Al Davis is, if it hadn't been for his Tenacity and Abrasiveness the AFL probably wouldn't have been such a problem for the NFL and wouldn't have been absorbed.
all interested parties should watch the HBO documentary, "AFL, Rebels With A Cause" fantastic information there. apparently When Mr. Hunt was negotiating with the NFL, the AFL was making little progress. So the AFL decided to vote Al Davis as Chief negotiator, the NFL knew there was no dealing with Davis and soon after the NFL caved and absorbed the AFL.

Davis was the League Commissioner, not the negotiator. Davis wanted to destroy the NFL, not join it or negotiate with it. When the merger wen't through, he was pissed because he couldn't continue his jihad.

**cdcox** · 11-02-2010, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

I think it had more to do with the fact that after 4 Super Bowls the NFL and AFL were tied 2-2, with the AFL winning Super Bowl's 3 & 4. NO WAY the establashed NFL would take the chance that the upstart AFL would get the advantage in Super Bowl 5, so they merged...

The merger agreement occurred in 1966, even though the actual merger did not take place until 1970. SB III and IV had nothing to do with it. It was a done deal before either of those games were played.

Chief3188 · 11-03-2010, 02:37 AM

Al "the mummy" Davis actually died several years ago. They just use CGI to make it look like he is up in his box wearing those ridiculous "please don't shit myself" jogging suits.

Chief3188 · 11-03-2010, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by LaChapelle

I would have sworn Ralph Wilson died this year

Nope he is still kicking and still in control of roughly 30% of his bodily functions.

chief52 · 11-03-2010, 06:50 AM

Davis started out from '60 through '63 as an assistant for the Chargers before joining the Raiders as a coach. He later ( late 60's?) purchased 10% of the team. Finally became a majority owner in 2005. He is not an original owner by any means. Ed McGah was the owner of the Raiders.

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chief52 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NoCal Casino cash: $9805260	Al Davis did not become the majority owner of the Raiders until 2005. While he was the face of the team ( Managing Partner ?) he was never the majority owner. McGaugh (sp?) was the most recent until his death and then the family and Davis fought out the value in court. Al Davis has been a minority owner. Al Davis was not an original owner. Not a consideration with Hunt, Adams, Wilson...etc. Last edited by chief52; 11-02-2010 at 08:57 PM..
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11-03-2010, 06:50 AM	#30
chief52 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NoCal Casino cash: $9805260	Davis started out from '60 through '63 as an assistant for the Chargers before joining the Raiders as a coach. He later ( late 60's?) purchased 10% of the team. Finally became a majority owner in 2005. He is not an original owner by any means. Ed McGah was the owner of the Raiders.
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