Cassel's BEST game as a Chief and Haley was Mr. Classy today!

[milkman]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

dude...

what?

Manning had literally no time to do anything Sunday night...and when he did his receivers would drop a ball or hesitate on a route...

It's no secret he didn't have a Peyton Manning type game...but it's not like he got any help from anyone, at all...

and there is a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig difference between Jim Caldwell and Bill Belichick...just like there was when Tony Dungy was in town.

Peyton overcame the hand he was dealt...Brady was dealt Jokers.

Did you happen to notice that the most pressure came from the interior, where Ryan Lilja and Jake Scott used to play.

We saw a little of this last year with the absense of Scott.

We are seeing it even more now that both he and Lilja are gone.

That was a very good O-Line, and now not so much.

If Manning were the great equalizer you think he was, it shouldn't make a damn bit of difference.

And, I guess it's just coincidence that Dieon Branch suddenly looks like a legitimate WR again.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by milkman

Did you happen to notice that the most pressure came from the guard intereior, where Ryan Lilja and Jake Scott used to play.

We saw a little of this last year with the absense of Scott.

We are seeing it even more now that both he and Lilja are gone.

That was a very good O-Line, and now not so much.

If Manning were the great equalizer you think he was, it shouldn't make a damn bit of difference.

And, I guess it's just coincidence that Dieon Branch suddenly looks like a legitimate WR again.

Polian is to blame. Lilja was the fall man. Now, KC has a good running game, Indy has none. Manning is just about the only thing holding that offense together. He's doing a great job with what he has.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by milkman

And, I guess it's just coincidence that Dieon Branch suddenly looks like a legitimate WR again.

Well, in fairness, Deion Branch has had 1 100 yard game since being re-acquired.

But hey...that's what great QB's do...they get the most out of their talent....

Somehow for Brady he has no weapons ever...

but Manning just has great weapons that make him look great...

Nevermind the fact that Tamme looks every bit as good as Clark...or Garcon/Collie came in last year and replace Harrison like he was nothing...or the fact that Wayne is just another guy who is overrated because he's had a QB with pinpoint accuracy his entire career...

but you're right...

Manning was only putting up the numbers Brady couldn't do early in his career because he had Harrison/Wayne and James...

He hasn't since proven that to be fiction or anything.

If anything...you'd have to think Harrison (like I've said all along) is probably pretty overrated...

And the comparison I've always made...had Harrison and Kennison flip-flopped draft spots...I bet we'd be talking about Kennison the same way we talk about Harrison now...you know...as a 1st ballot HOF'er...

[zonachief]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Well, in fairness, Deion Branch has had 1 100 yard game since being re-acquired.

But hey...that's what great QB's do...they get the most out of their talent....

Somehow for Brady he has no weapons ever...

but Manning just has great weapons that make him look great...

Nevermind the fact that Tamme looks every bit as good as Clark...or Garcon/Collie came in last year and replace Harrison like he was nothing...or the fact that Wayne is just another guy who is overrated because he's had a QB with pinpoint accuracy his entire career...

but you're right...

Manning was only putting up the numbers Brady couldn't do early in his career because he had Harrison/Wayne and James...

He hasn't since proven that to be fiction or anything.

If anything...you'd have to think Harrison (like I've said all along) is probably pretty overrated...

And the comparison I've always made...had Harrison and Kennison flip-flopped draft spots...I bet we'd be talking about Kennison the same way we talk about Harrison now...you know...as a 1st ballot HOF'er...

This...except the whole kennison HOF thing. Whoever plays WR with Manning looks legit....Garcon, Collie, Blair White...etc.