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**Tribal Warfare** · 12-10-2010, 02:02 AM

Chiefs buzz: Croyle lacking game action

Practice isn’t like a game

Quarterback Brodie Croyle hasn’t played in a game since the preseason and now will probably start Sunday’s game against the Chargers in place of Matt Cassel. As much practice as the Chiefs give Croyle — it’s a considerable amount this week, but normally not much — practice isn’t the same as a game because it’s conducted at a much slower speed.

The Chiefs in recent weeks had several chances to get Croyle playing time. They fell hopelessly behind the Broncos in Denver a month ago and since then held sizable leads against the Cardinals and Seahawks in the fourth quarter.

In each case, coach Todd Haley kept Cassel in the game.

“With where you are in some of those games, you’re not going to be throwing the football,” Haley said. “I don’t know that you’re not getting some of the same things in practice.”

Cassel didn’t practice again Thursday after having an appendectomy a day earlier. Unless the Chiefs break one of Haley’s rules, Cassel would have to practice today to play in San Diego.

“The policy is you have to have some semblance of practice,” Haley said. “We’ll see as the week plays out exactly where we are. Right now we’ve got two days under our belt, and we’ve got two more left.”

Getting the ball to Bowe

The Chiefs failed to get the ball to wide receiver Dwayne Bowe in last week’s game against Denver, and it’s probably no coincidence they scored only 10 points in beating the Broncos. The Chargers undoubtedly took note of the connection and will probably make a similar effort to take Bowe out of the game.

“That can’t be something that we allow to happen one way or another,” Haley said. “It’s our job as coaches to find ways to help the receivers. It’s the receiver’s duty to continue to step his game up against the competition and make plays. That’s what I fully expect from Dwayne. He’s trying to continue to make steps to being a really good player in the league, and this is the next step for him, going against really good competition that knows he’s one of the guys that gets the football a bunch.”

Wiegmann can relate

Center Casey Wiegmann missed the final exhibition game and the regular-season opener in 2001 after having an appendectomy in a procedure similar to Cassel’s.

“It took me a couple of weeks,” Wiegmann said. “They didn’t want to rush me back too fast. I could have played in one week, but they just didn’t want to risk it for the rest of the year.”

Injury report

The Chiefs made one change to their practice report. They said reserve defensive back Donald Washington (ankle) was limited in practice. He didn’t practice the day before.

Safety Kendrick Lewis (ankle) was also limited. Cassel was the only other player listed, and he didn’t practice because of what the Chiefs continued to call an illness.

TheGuardian · 12-10-2010, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Would you be happy with Brodie if he went 10/22 for 68 yards and 1 TD on Sunday?

No, but you quoting stats from opening night when the weather sucked ass is pretty ****ing dumb.

Pants · 12-10-2010, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

You don't play 2 good games and go 23-4. That's ****ing stupid beyond comprehension.

You probably just have a different definition of 'good'. It seems like to you "not bad" = "good" while to us, "good" = "good". He has 2 really good games, and a pretty good game last Sunday (I'm not counting the practice against Denver in the 2nd half of that game).

ROYC75 · 12-10-2010, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants

It's a pretty self-explanatory question. Which part do you not understand?

I can see things from both sides. I don't get to excited and wrapped up in this crap. The situation is what it is,injuries happens and good teams find ways to work through them, this should make the whole team step it up and rally around Brodie. If they do not, then clearly we do not have the team we need to compete in the NFL.

One player a team make ? Hardly, howbeit, we all know a good QB is a vital part. Was Frank Reich a GREAT starting QB ? No, but when called upon in backup time the team rallied around him and made him look like a saint. There has been many of backup QB's that thought they were # 1 material, finally moving on to find they were not what they thought they were.

We get the chance this weekend to see if this team is really making strides.

Pants · 12-10-2010, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

No, but you quoting stats from opening night when the weather sucked ass is pretty ****ing dumb.

22/39 298 2TDs
Now, shut the **** up.

Chiefnj2 · 12-10-2010, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Would you be happy with Brodie if he went 10/22 for 68 yards and 1 TD on Sunday?

Do the Chiefs win??

TheGuardian · 12-10-2010, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants

You probably just have a different definition of 'good'. It seems like to you "not bad" = "good" while to us, "good" = "good". He has 2 really good games, and a pretty good game last Sunday (I'm not counting the practice against Denver in the 2nd half of that game).

week 3 against the 9ers he hit 59% of his passes for 250 with 3 TD's and 1 pick in a blow out win

week 5 against the Texas he 20 of 29 for 201 with 3 TD's and no picks including what should have been the game winning drive but the defense folded

62% for 193 and 2 TD's no picks in a blowout win against Zona

69% for 233 with 4 TD's and zero picks on the road in Seattle

55% for for 196 and a TD with no picks last week

It's already been disproved that Denver was NOT playing a prevent or soft zone in that game in the second half where they blitzed 25 times. So there's 6 games at least.

Brodie is 0-9 as a starter. /thread

TheGuardian · 12-10-2010, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants

22/39 298 2TDs
Now, shut the **** up.

With 94 ****ing yards of that coming on a blown coverage on two plays. Now make me shut the **** up **** rag.

**HemiEd** · 12-10-2010, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

You don't play 2 good games and go 23-4. That's ****ing stupid beyond comprehension.

The rest of your shit, wow. If Brodie were that good, he's not 0-9 as a ****ing starter. What part about that don't you get?????

What the **** are you talking about? When has Cassel gone 23 and 4? This year he is 8 and 4. Last year he was 4 and 11 with the same team Brodie was 0 and 1 with.

If you are going to make excuses for Cassel and the Weather, the last time Brodie played, his Offensive Coordinator had just been fired, dumbass. He didn't have the coaching and support that Cassel has had.

That is why I am excited to see what he does, is that so ****ing hard for you dumbass?

No where did I say I was glad Cassel was out, I said I was more excited to see Brodie play, which I am.

Reerun_KC · 12-10-2010, 09:59 AM

My guess croyle will go 18-26 269 2tds with 1 Int..

Pants · 12-10-2010, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

With 60 ****ing yards of that coming on a blown coverage. Now make me shut the **** up **** rag.

But, but, the weather?

TheGuardian · 12-10-2010, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

What the **** are you talking about? When has Cassel gone 23 and 4? This year he is 8 and 4. Last year he was 4 and 11 with the same team Brodie was 0 and 1 with.

If you are going to make excuses for Cassel and the Weather, the last time Brodie played, his Offensive Coordinator had just been fired, dumbass. He didn't have the coaching and support that Cassel has had.

That is why I am excited to see what he does, is that so ****ing hard for you dumbass?

No where did I say I was glad Cassel was out, I said I was more excited to see Brodie play, which I am.

23 touchdowns with 4 picks.

Reerun_KC · 12-10-2010, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants

But, but, the weather?

was one of the main reasons SD lost the game. We jumped out early, ran the ball (something they couldnt do) and won the game...

TheGuardian · 12-10-2010, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

was one of the main reasons SD lost the game. We jumped out early, ran the ball (something they couldnt do) and won the game...

Stop trying to use logic on squirrel nuts there.

Pants · 12-10-2010, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

week 3 against the 9ers he hit 59% of his passes for 250 with 3 TD's and 1 pick in a blow out win

week 5 against the Texas he 20 of 29 for 201 with 3 TD's and no picks including what should have been the game winning drive but the defense folded

62% for 193 and 2 TD's no picks in a blowout win against Zona

69% for 233 with 4 TD's and zero picks on the road in Seattle

55% for for 196 and a TD with no picks last week

It's already been disproved that Denver was NOT playing a prevent or soft zone in that game in the second half where they blitzed 25 times. So there's 6 games at least.

Brodie is 0-9 as a starter. /thread

Did you watch the games, dude? I'll repeat, Cassel has had 2 really good games (and by really good games I mean stepping up in the pocket and delivering strikes, avoiding pressure without shitting his pants, making his reads and being accurate). You can post the numbers all day long, I know they're impressive and I'm sure they'll convince all those pundits on TV that don't actually watch the games, but they can't convince me when I saw how Cassel was playing with my own 2 eyes.

Pants · 12-10-2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

was one of the main reasons SD lost the game. We jumped out early, ran the ball (something they couldnt do) and won the game...

We won the game because Dex ran one back for a TD.

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