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**Tribal Warfare** · 12-10-2010, 02:02 AM

Chiefs buzz: Croyle lacking game action

Practice isn’t like a game

Quarterback Brodie Croyle hasn’t played in a game since the preseason and now will probably start Sunday’s game against the Chargers in place of Matt Cassel. As much practice as the Chiefs give Croyle — it’s a considerable amount this week, but normally not much — practice isn’t the same as a game because it’s conducted at a much slower speed.

The Chiefs in recent weeks had several chances to get Croyle playing time. They fell hopelessly behind the Broncos in Denver a month ago and since then held sizable leads against the Cardinals and Seahawks in the fourth quarter.

In each case, coach Todd Haley kept Cassel in the game.

“With where you are in some of those games, you’re not going to be throwing the football,” Haley said. “I don’t know that you’re not getting some of the same things in practice.”

Cassel didn’t practice again Thursday after having an appendectomy a day earlier. Unless the Chiefs break one of Haley’s rules, Cassel would have to practice today to play in San Diego.

“The policy is you have to have some semblance of practice,” Haley said. “We’ll see as the week plays out exactly where we are. Right now we’ve got two days under our belt, and we’ve got two more left.”

Getting the ball to Bowe

The Chiefs failed to get the ball to wide receiver Dwayne Bowe in last week’s game against Denver, and it’s probably no coincidence they scored only 10 points in beating the Broncos. The Chargers undoubtedly took note of the connection and will probably make a similar effort to take Bowe out of the game.

“That can’t be something that we allow to happen one way or another,” Haley said. “It’s our job as coaches to find ways to help the receivers. It’s the receiver’s duty to continue to step his game up against the competition and make plays. That’s what I fully expect from Dwayne. He’s trying to continue to make steps to being a really good player in the league, and this is the next step for him, going against really good competition that knows he’s one of the guys that gets the football a bunch.”

Wiegmann can relate

Center Casey Wiegmann missed the final exhibition game and the regular-season opener in 2001 after having an appendectomy in a procedure similar to Cassel’s.

“It took me a couple of weeks,” Wiegmann said. “They didn’t want to rush me back too fast. I could have played in one week, but they just didn’t want to risk it for the rest of the year.”

Injury report

The Chiefs made one change to their practice report. They said reserve defensive back Donald Washington (ankle) was limited in practice. He didn’t practice the day before.

Safety Kendrick Lewis (ankle) was also limited. Cassel was the only other player listed, and he didn’t practice because of what the Chiefs continued to call an illness.

TheGuardian · 12-10-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Did you watch the game or have you forgotten? The Broncos were up 28, since the Broncos were totally shutting the Cassel down.

Then Cassel folded like like a cheap suit when he got hit and fumbled, which was ran back for a TD. 28+7=35

But he did look great in two games! Hopefully it will be many more.

Now go throw some more coal in the heater, and

.

From the start of the second quarter to the end of the ball game, Cassel outscored the Donks 29-28. So the defense continued to fold like a bitch and Cassel stepped up after a poor start. And it was not against a prevent defense. This has already been proven false many times.

Got anything else?

FAX · 12-10-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Probably because you are blind as a ****ing bat and a ****ing moron to match.

Mom ... ?

FAX

FAX · 12-10-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Dude. He threw for 177 yards two TD's and was sacked 3 times and fumbled.

That's what you are ****ing are so giddy about?

When Cassel puts up those stats, he sucks. When Croyle does it, you're rubbing one out to it.

You guys are ****ing stupid. Wow.

Completely different team, really, Mr. TheGuardian. O-line's completely different, defense is completely different (or playing like it), run game is completely different, coaches are completely different, game-planning is completely different.

Different. See?

FAX

Pants · 12-10-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Remind me how many touchdowns the defense gave up in that second half dipshit. The "flameout" you speak of is when the tackle got beat like a ****ing drum from the snap of the ball virtually killing that drive. Who doesn't watch the games again?

Remind me again how many "good games" has Brodie Croyle ever had?

You're arguing the wrong point. I know I introduced these strawmen and gave you something to talk about as opposed to addressing the meat of the argument, which was that he made SHORT PASSES ALL GAME LONG and his receivers worked their little assess off to give him the numbers he got.

Reerun_KC · 12-10-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Completely different team, really, Mr. TheGuardian. O-line's completely different, defense is completely different (or playing like it), run game is completely different, coaches are completely different, game-planning is completely different.

Different. See?

FAX

Just not seeing it.

Can you explain it again?

CoMoChief · 12-10-2010, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Exactly, and that is a big part of my enthusiasm for getting to see him play again, with all the new improvements.

But no, we should all be pissed that Cassel is out, and just give the **** up.

Well the one thing Croyle has up against him is just playing against live competition during a game situation. Only playing experience can make you better in that aspect of the game. Practice is different. But he's had a chance to learn the system etc while holding the clipboard and has had a training camp under his belt w/ Weis and the newbies from FA and the draft so we will see. Mechanically speaking he's a better QB than Cassel, has better arm strength and IMO is more accurate. It's just he has to get his timing down and develope chemistry....and asking him to have that down pat is hard to do in just a matter of a week, after not playing for a long time.

With that being said, going on the road against a (good) pissed off Chargers team is not going to be easy, I think we lose this game, and it wouldn't surprise me if we get our shit kicked in since their season is on the line. Hopefully we can play up to our competition this week and make it a game, and with a little luck and bounces of a KC ball, maybe we can come out with a "W", but it's highly unlikely.

**The Franchise** · 12-10-2010, 11:06 AM

I'm more interested in seeing what the defense can do against the Chargers offense.

**HemiEd** · 12-10-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

From the start of the second quarter to the end of the ball game, Cassel outscored the Donks 29-28. So the defense continued to fold like a bitch and Cassel stepped up after a poor start. And it was not against a prevent defense. This has already been proven false many times.

Got anything else?

You are dumber than I thought, please get some help, seriously.

Your reasoning is so circular, its whatever stat is convenient for you at the time, with no consistency. .

He lost the game, could not keep up, the Broncos went prevent to make it closer, but it was still a pathetic loss, similar to the one in Oakland, Houston and Indy. Cassel just didn't have what it took, when needed to win the game.

He did in Seattle though, and it was wonderful, we ALL loved it.

You are the one talking about wins and losses guardasill.

Micjones · 12-10-2010, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Brodie is a lifetime 57% passer. Accuracy? You guys are on ****ing crack.

The guy is 0-9 as a starter.

For the ****ing life of me I cannot understand what bitches are so excited about. The most important game for this team in almost a decade, and our could-be pro bowl QB is out, and people are jacking their wenis to see a guy play with a 57% accuracy percentage, 0-9 as a starter, and has a 1 to 1 TD to pick ratio.

My sentiments exactly. Who knows? Maybe Weis can call the game of his life, we run the ball well, the offensive line can protect him and we win this game. I just don't understand where all this confidence in Croyle is coming from.

TheGuardian · 12-10-2010, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

You are dumber than I thought, please get some help, seriously.

Your reasoning is so circular, its whatever stat is convenient for you at the time, with no consistency. .

He lost the game, could not keep up, the Broncos went prevent to make it closer, but it was still a pathetic loss, similar to the one in Oakland, Houston and Indy. Cassel just didn't have what it took, when needed to win the game.

He did in Seattle though, and it was wonderful, we ALL loved it.

You are the one talking about wins and losses guardasill.

Cassel lost the game. All by himself.....

I refuse to talk to your stupid ass any more.

**HemiEd** · 12-10-2010, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Cassel lost the game. All by himself.....

I refuse to talk to your stupid ass any more.

Thanks for making my point Mr. 0-9. Brodie Croyle lost all of them by himself, right? But Cassel didn't, see how this works?

Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

**The Franchise** · 12-10-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Cassel lost the game. All by himself.....

I refuse to talk to your stupid ass any more.

Dude....you're just as pathetic as the people that you bitch about.

Reerun_KC · 12-10-2010, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Thanks for making my point Mr. 0-9. Brodie Croyle lost all of them by himself, right? But Cassel didn't, see how this works?

Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

Sadly HemiEd, your right. Croyle lost with teams that were dog shit... But it was solely Cassels fault for Houston, Indy, Denver and Oakland...

Just the way it is when your the Starting QB in KC... The Backup is always the answer, has been since I can ever remember watching or talking chiefs football 22 years ago...

**HemiEd** · 12-10-2010, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Sadly HemiEd, your right. Croyle lost with teams that were dog shit... But it was solely Cassels fault for Houston, Indy, Denver and Oakland...

Just the way it is when your the Starting QB in KC... The Backup is always the answer, has been since I can ever remember watching or talking chiefs football 22 years ago...

See that is my point, this started out as

"Croyle is 0-9 he is dogshit and why would anyone want to see him play, and they are stupid mother ****ers for even thinking it."/guardasill

So if Croyle is 0-9, how does Cassel get a pass on the Denver debacle, when he was clearly the one shitting his pants on offense?

Any idiot, even one with brain damage from playing Jr. College football should be able to see that.

King_Chief_Fan · 12-10-2010, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Completely different team, really, Mr. TheGuardian. O-line's completely different, defense is completely different (or playing like it), run game is completely different, coaches are completely different, game-planning is completely different.

Different. See?

FAX

You lost me my good man......what is it?

12-10-2010, 02:02 AM
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