Football Muschamp to Florida - Page 6

**SAUTO** · 12-11-2010, 07:16 PM

Texas d coord to head coach at Florida. Per espn
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Rams Fan · 12-12-2010, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Dan Mullen - HC at MSU
Charlie Strong - HC at Louisville
Doc Holliday - WVU before HC @ Marshall
Greg Mattison - DC for Ravens
Dan McCarney - HC for North Texas

Show me another school that has had as many guys become HC/DC for NFL in the same time period.

Auburn: Chizik, Muschamp, and maybe Malzhan?

**DaKCMan AP** · 12-12-2010, 01:33 PM

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Auburn: Chizik, Muschamp, and maybe Malzhan?

Chizik isn't in the same time period and Malzahn isn't a HC.

Great Expectations · 12-12-2010, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Dan Mullen - HC at MSU
Charlie Strong - HC at Louisville
Doc Holliday - WVU before HC @ Marshall
Greg Mattison - DC for Ravens
Dan McCarney - HC for North Texas

Show me another school that has had as many guys become HC/DC for NFL in the same time period.

I don't know what that time frame is but from OU you have the following list all becoming head coaches:

Long
Sumlin
Stoops
Mangini
Wilson
Leach
Pelini
(am I missing somebody)?

**DaKCMan AP** · 12-12-2010, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations

I don't know what that time frame is but from OU you have the following list all becoming head coaches:

Long - Chuck Long isn't a HC
Sumlin - 2007
Stoops - 2003
Mangino - 2001
Wilson - 2010
Leach - 1999
Pelini - 2004
(am I missing somebody)?

So in the same time period they've had Sumlin & Wilson.

eazyb81 · 12-13-2010, 07:34 AM

Heh, Vandy is about to announce a better head coaching hire than Florida just did.

Supposedly Gus Malzahn has received an offer from Vandy for their opening and is going to accept it.

**DaKCMan AP** · 12-13-2010, 09:30 AM

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Heh, Vandy is about to announce a better head coaching hire than Florida just did.

Supposedly Gus Malzahn has received an offer from Vandy for their opening and is going to accept it.

If you think Malzahn is a better hire than Muschamp then you're clueless. Given it's you posting, I'm not surprised.

**the Talking Can** · 12-13-2010, 09:39 AM

cowherd claiming Pelini was going to be the coach at Florida until rumor got out and he scuttled it...

**DaKCMan AP** · 12-13-2010, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

cowherd claiming Pelini was going to be the coach at Florida until rumor got out and he scuttled it...

Cowherd's full of crap.

eazyb81 · 12-13-2010, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

If you think Malzahn is a better hire than Muschamp then you're clueless. Given it's you posting, I'm not surprised.

Great rebuttal there doofus.

Muschamp's 50th ranked UT defense sure was nasty this year.

Is Stoops coming in to be Muschamp's D-coordinator?

kepp · 12-13-2010, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

No certainty that a good coordinator will become a good head coach.

Well, if he doesn't succeed as a head coach at UF he's got no excuses. He'll have all the resources he could ever ask for.

eazyb81 · 12-13-2010, 10:03 AM

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Well, if he doesn't succeed as a head coach at UF he's got no excuses. He'll have all the resources he could ever ask for.

No doubt. It's kind of funny though watching Gator fans try to spin this as a great hire, considering the names they were throwing around before the Muschamp news surfaced.

Stoops? Petrino? Saban? Mullen? Gruden? Muschamp.

One of these things is not like the other......

**DaKCMan AP** · 12-13-2010, 10:40 AM

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Great rebuttal there doofus.

Muschamp's 50th ranked UT defense sure was nasty this year.

Is Stoops coming in to be Muschamp's D-coordinator?

First, Texas was 7th in total defense (51st in pts/gm) in 2010. The whole team was awful in 2010. Their O was 59th overall and 87th in ppg. Even a great D is going to break with an O that bad.

But go ahead and discount that Muschamp was DC in the SEC for 5 years and each time his D was top-10 in the country. Discount that the previous 2 years in 2009 and 2008 Texas his D's were 3rd and 50th in total D (8th and 20th in pts/gm), respectively.

Then look at Malzahn who 4 years ago was a high school coach. His offense at Arkansas was good (with McFadden, Jones, and Hillis - none of whom he recruited) and his two years at Tulsa his O's were mixed but trending downward: 38th in Total O & 47th in ppg in 2009 and 2nd in total O & pts in 2008.

No one mentioned Muschamp because no one even thought he was available. He was HCIW at Texas, a top-3 job. Yet Malzahn was a better hire?

eazyb81 · 12-13-2010, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

First, Texas was 7th in total defense (51st in pts/gm) in 2010. The whole team was awful in 2010. Their O was 59th overall and 87th in ppg. Even a great D is going to break with an O that bad.

But go ahead and discount that Muschamp was DC in the SEC for 5 years and each time his D was top-10 in the country. Discount that the previous 2 years in 2009 and 2008 Texas his D's were 3rd and 50th in total D (8th and 20th in pts/gm), respectively.

Then look at Malzahn who 4 years ago was a high school coach. His offense at Arkansas was good (with McFadden, Jones, and Hillis - none of whom he recruited) and his two years at Tulsa his O's were mixed but trending downward: 38th in Total O & 47th in ppg in 2009 and 2nd in total O & pts in 2008.

No one mentioned Muschamp because no one even thought he was available. He was HCIW at Texas, a top-3 job. Yet Malzahn was a better hire?

51st in points a game with arguably more talent than any school in the country? Sounds like the makings of a great head coach. Kudos!

Who wouldn't rather have Will Muschamp over Bob Stoops, Nick Saban, or Bobby Petrino.

Just admit it - you look silly for throwing out those ridiculous names earlier in the process. Muschamp is a fine head coach prospect, but he's no different than any other "hot" coordinator that is available every year.

It would have been impressive if Florida snagged a big name HC like the fans bragged about, but frankly Muschamp is the most meh name that was mentioned.

Could it be a homerun hire? Sure. But in has to be a disappointment, whether you admit or not, considering the names that were bandied about leading up to it and his complete lack of head coaching experience.

On the other hand, Malzahn's offense has been incredible this year at Auburn. In a vacuum, the Malzahn hire at Vandy is a much better hire than Muschamp at Florida. That is a no doubt homerun, even though he will most likely never win more games in a season than Muschamp will at UF.

**Saul Good** · 12-13-2010, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

First, Texas was 7th in total defense (51st in pts/gm) in 2010. The whole team was awful in 2010. Their O was 59th overall and 87th in ppg. Even a great D is going to break with an O that bad.

But go ahead and discount that Muschamp was DC in the SEC for 5 years and each time his D was top-10 in the country. Discount that the previous 2 years in 2009 and 2008 Texas his D's were 3rd and 50th in total D (8th and 20th in pts/gm), respectively.

Then look at Malzahn who 4 years ago was a high school coach. His offense at Arkansas was good (with McFadden, Jones, and Hillis - none of whom he recruited) and his two years at Tulsa his O's were mixed but trending downward: 38th in Total O & 47th in ppg in 2009 and 2nd in total O & pts in 2008.

No one mentioned Muschamp because no one even thought he was available. He was HCIW at Texas, a top-3 job. Yet Malzahn was a better hire?

Nobody mentioned Muschamp be cause he was a HCIW (behind a coach that just signed a monster extension) but Stoops and Saban were bandied about?

**DaKCMan AP** · 12-13-2010, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

51st in points a game with arguably more talent than any school in the country? Sounds like the makings of a great head coach. Kudos!

Who wouldn't rather have Will Muschamp over Bob Stoops, Nick Saban, or Bobby Petrino.

Just admit it - you look silly for throwing out those ridiculous names earlier in the process. Muschamp is a fine head coach prospect, but he's no different than any other "hot" coordinator that is available every year.

It would have been impressive if Florida snagged a big name HC like the fans bragged about, but frankly Muschamp is the most meh name that was mentioned.

Could it be a homerun hire? Sure. But in has to be a disappointment, whether you admit or not, considering the names that were bandied about leading up to it and his complete lack of head coaching experience.

On the other hand, Malzahn's offense has been incredible this year at Auburn. In a vacuum, the Malzahn hire at Vandy is a much better hire than Muschamp at Florida. That is a no doubt homerun, even though he will most likely never win more games in a season than Muschamp will at UF.

Of course the Muschamp hire has risk to it. He hasn't been a HC. I was throwing out what I was hearing, which was Stoops/Petersen. All of the "insiders" were wrong. All the media outlets were wrong. It happens.

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