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Old 12-15-2010, 03:06 PM  
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Mike Vick: I would like to own a dog again someday




Why Mike?? Why??


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Michael Vick would like to be a dog owner again.

The Philadelphia Eagles QB -- convicted in 2007 of a federal dogfighting crime -- has said he would like to run full circle and again own a dog if the courts will allow him.

Vick was banned from owning a dog as part of the sentence handed down that sent him to prison for 18 months.

"I would love to get another dog in the future," Vick told TheGrio.com. "I think it would be a big step for me in the rehabilitation process. I think just to have a pet in my household and to show people that I genuinely care, and my love, and my passion for animals."

Vick, enjoying one of his best-ever seasons after winning the Eagles' starting job in September, has tried to make amends for his dogfighting past.

He completed his 20-month sentence, which included two months of home confinement, and began working with the Humane Society.

Vick was banned from owning a dog under the terms of his supervised release in July 2009. The supervised release was set to run for three years.

Vick has since apologized for his role in the dogfighting ring and he now informs young people about the evils of the bloodsport.

He told TheGrio.com he was around dogfighting from a young age.

"I hate to use our culture as an excuse, but it is what it is and that's what happened and that's the way I thought about it growing up," Vick said. "This is just the way we were brought up."

Vick has said that prison changed him and made him a smarter and more mature person for having to endure the embarrassment and personal pain of incarceration.

And he made an interesting note about what advice he would give now to himself four years ago.

"That Mike probably wouldn't listen to nothing that I had to say," Vick said.
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Old 12-15-2010, 05:50 PM   #106
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This argument is completely stupid. You glossed right the hell over the alternatives I was bringing up as if I didnt say them and was instead advocating that we release all pedophiles and let them run wild. Let me spell it out for you, clearly and slowly.

If you want to impose the death penalty for child rape, fine. If you want life in prison for the crime, fine. If you think someone is genuinely crazy where they aren't responsible for their actions so prison is not appropriate but they are still a danger to society and have to spend most of their life in a mental institution, fine.

I am not saying lower the punishment, if anything it should be higher, so your high and mighty "oh how dare you underestimate these crimes" argument is misdirected, wrong, and irrelevant. You want to bring the hammer down, then bring the hammer down.

But, your lists are bulls**t. If you are free, you should be free, period. If you are that damned scared of someone being free, perhaps they shouldnt be free.
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Old 12-15-2010, 05:50 PM   #107
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I did earlier. The guy shuld be allowed to have a dog.
No, you didn't. Here's the question:

Would you let a convicted pedophile babysit your kid after they have served their time?
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Old 12-15-2010, 05:53 PM   #108
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Would you let a convicted pedophile babysit your kid after they have served their time?
What does this have to do with the thread topic?
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Old 12-15-2010, 05:54 PM   #109
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What does this have to do with the thread topic?
Some folks on this thread are arguing that pedophiles should just be free and clear once they do their time. So, if that is what they think, would they be okay with these pedophiles babysitting their kids?
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If you knew him, Would you let Michael Vick watch your dog? That is a more appropriate question...
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Old 12-15-2010, 05:55 PM   #111
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I would imagine that since he has tortured and viciously/inhumanely killed dogs in the past, that perhaps he should have ANY breed of dog.
Hell you could still have tarantula fights. The guy paid a HUGE price. What are going to do, not let him own any animal? As a society we go beyond reeruned with this scarlet letter legislation. To me what the city of Denver has done is far worse. Now they want their stupid BSL to apply to the disabled's service dogs even though it is against Federal law to do so.
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Old 12-15-2010, 05:56 PM   #112
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If you knew him, Would you let Michael Vick watch your dog? That is a more appropriate question...
And the answer would be yes.
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If you knew him, Would you let Michael Vick watch your dog? That is a more appropriate question...
Sure. My dog probably has a higher IQ, though.
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And the answer would be yes.
Mine too, that is my point.
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oh come on now, people are acting like he committed murder. He wants a dog, let him have a dog. Do people really think that if he was going to use this dog to fight that he would have come out to the public and said he wanted one?
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Mine too, that is my point.
Wait, what's your point?
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Wait, what's your point?
My point is anyone comparing pedophiles to Mike Vick is a ****ing idiot
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My point is anyone comparing pedophiles to Mike Vick is a ****ing idiot
I agree.
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Got it....alcatraz for everyone because different levels of rehabilitation is wrong.
These lists are not rehabilitation, they are permenant scarlet letters. Rehabilitation implies that you could be rehabilitated and there's a light at the end of the tunnel, but there's not. This is forever, guilty at 18 and out of jail at 29? You get to live with this until 125 with no recourse.

The logic that says these lists (and restrictions on where you can live) is fine could also be used to say that these sex offenders should have an old fashioned cattle iron in the shape of an S heated in a fire and seared into their forehead for all to see and avoid. Why not? we can give them painkillers and have a doctor oversee it so there's no health risk.

If we are so scared of these people that we think these extraordinary measures are necessary to be safe, then they should not be out. If someone is cleared to be free, they should be free.
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Old 12-15-2010, 06:21 PM   #120
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If we are so scared of these people that we think these extraordinary measures are necessary to be safe, then they should not be out. If someone is cleared to be free, they should be free.
This is simplistic logic. If they would rather be released, and the public is OK with them being released so long as they comply with sex offender lists, why should that not be done? If they don't want to be on the list, then they can go back to jail....they have that option.
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