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Old 12-19-2010, 07:02 AM  
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Grienke to BREWERS

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5935586

Former Cy Young Award winner Zack Greinke has been traded to the Milwaukee Brewers, sources told ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney on Sunday morning.
In the deal, the Brewers would reportedly send the Royals outfielder Lorenzo Cain, shortstop Alcides Escobar and prospect pitchers Jake Odorizzi and Jeremy Jeffress for Greinke, 10-14 with a 4.17 ERA in 2010 with the Royals after winning the 2009 Cy Young.
The Brewers were expected to receive another major leaguer in the deal. Jim Breem of the blog "Bernie's Crew" reported that player to be shortstop Yuniesky Betancourt.
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Old 12-19-2010, 12:44 PM   #136
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Old 12-19-2010, 12:45 PM   #137
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The Royals now have a lot of flexibility. Other than Soria, no one of significance is under contract for 2012, and they will have an uber-cheap payroll. If they are anywhere close to contending in 2012 or 2013, there's no excuse for them not to go out and buy a couple missing pieces.
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Old 12-19-2010, 12:49 PM   #138
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it don't matter, we'll never have a chance in hell of competing.
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Old 12-19-2010, 12:49 PM   #139
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Old 12-19-2010, 12:51 PM   #140
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it don't matter, we'll never have a chance in hell of competing.
This team is going to contend for the AL Central crown in 2013-2014.
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Old 12-19-2010, 12:54 PM   #141
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My son is crying because the Royals traded Zack. Asking why are the Royals always so BOO?!
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Old 12-19-2010, 12:57 PM   #142
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Sadly, as uninformed as the majority of opinions in this thread have been, I have to think he is.
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Old 12-19-2010, 12:58 PM   #143
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The Royals now have a lot of flexibility. Other than Soria, no one of significance is under contract for 2012, and they will have an uber-cheap payroll. If they are anywhere close to contending in 2012 or 2013, there's no excuse for them not to go out and buy a couple missing pieces.
Meche has one more year right? We could make a major splash prior to 2012 if we choose to do so.
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Old 12-19-2010, 01:00 PM   #144
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I rate this deal at about a 7. The Nat's proposal seemed to be the home run but if he vetoed a deal to DC what can we do. Jake Odorizzi is the one I am the most excited about and hopefully Escobar can show what made him a top 12 BA propsect.
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Old 12-19-2010, 01:09 PM   #145
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The deal is now complete. Jeffress has now been named as the PTBNL and has been told that he's been traded to KC.
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Old 12-19-2010, 01:10 PM   #146
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Keith Law says Royals got screwed on this deal.
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Old 12-19-2010, 01:10 PM   #147
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All of the haters are acting like the Royals just traded away Roy Halladay or Roger Clemens in his prime.

They traded away Zack freaking Greinke. He's a head case with a personality disorder who can't be counted on for anything in the long run. He had one great season, but the fact is that he has pitched in the major leagues for SEVEN seasons, and he had ONE, count'em ONE, great season. And in his great season he won 16 games.

He was hell-bent to leave Kansas City, despite the fact that the Royals stuck with him when he walked away from the game. He made it much more difficult for the Royals to get the best deal possible for him by telling the world he wanted out of Kansas City.

Zack Greinke is a punk and a fucking idiot. He has a beautiful wife, he's a multi-millionaire, and he gets to play baseball for a living. Despite all of that, he isn't happy. He knows he doesn't want to play for a losing team like the Royals, but he is too much of a chickenshit to play for a really big market team like the Yankees. His emotional problems give him the biggest potential downside of any "ace" pitcher in the game.

I'm thrilled that in one fell swoop Dayton Moore was able to (1) dump Greinke's ass, (2) dump Yuniesky Betancourt, (3) pick up a starting shortstop, (4) pick up a starting center fielder, (5) pick up a very good pitching prospect, and (6) dump Greinke's ass (that's worth saying again).

Greinke is the most overrated pitcher in baseball. Good riddance to him.
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yeah, they are lining up on both sides now. Rany, Rosenthal, and Goldstein all like it, Keith Law does not like it.

The potential does exist that the Royals could win the trade but its not a sure thing.
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Old 12-19-2010, 01:13 PM   #149
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It's a shit trade on paper, and even those who like it are pretty lukewarm.
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Old 12-19-2010, 01:14 PM   #150
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The Royals rotation next year is going to be utterly horrid. Those stud minor league pitchers cant get here fast enough.
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