Chiefs The Jets or the Ravens in the Playoffs? - Page 5

Tertullian · 12-21-2010, 03:48 PM

Let's assume that the Chiefs, the Jets, and the Ravens make the playoffs. The Jets and the Ravens being WC.

Who do you want to play?

ToxSocks · 12-21-2010, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFan5840

We beat the Chargers, Browns, 49ers, Bills, Jaguars, possibly the Titans and the Raiders. Those are all very good teams and they would be 7 of our 11 wins.

The Chargers RAPED us. The Titans just got off a 6 game losing streak. I'll give you the Raiders and Jags though. As long as we beat the Raiders.

ToxSocks · 12-21-2010, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DrRyan

Funny thing about betting lines is, at my last check, Vegas does not determine betting lines based on opposing teams fans wanting to play the other team. I can't see more than a 5% chance the Jets would be favored.

Sanchez has been pretty awful since the Houston game. Their running game is not nearly what it was last year and the same goes for their defense as a whole. Their pass rush appears to be a shell of last year's self and they are giving up quite a bit through the air.

Not that I would count it as a win, but I would MUCH rather see the Jets come to KC January opposed to Baltimore.

hopefully we'll see in 3 weeks. I still think the Jets will be favored.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-21-2010, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by D2112

You're right, they didnt. but they have been pretty solid all year against the run.

I don't think anybody wants to play the Ravens to be honest.

They have, no doubt. You're a Top 5 rush defense statistically.

I just think your run defense is more vulnerable than Baltimore's.

And FWIW, I'd prefer to steer clear of Baltimore and Pittsburgh if at all possible.

BushyTheBeaver · 12-21-2010, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFan5840

We beat the Chargers, Browns, 49ers, Bills, Jaguars, possibly the Titans and the Raiders. Those are all very good teams and they would be 7 of our 11 wins.

49ers, Browns, Bills, and Titans are "very good" teams? On what planet? Chargers are the only team on that list that qualify as "very good."

WebGem · 12-21-2010, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

The Chargers RAPED us.

We beat them at Arrowhead (where the Jets would be), they raped us on the road in the only game where our QB wasn't there.

If the Jets are at Arrowhead in the playoffs the line will be somewhere between pk and KC -2, the Jets will not be favored.

-King- · 12-21-2010, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I agree. We would probably have an easier time moving the ball against NYJ, but I think our D will struggle more against NYJ.

Meh, maybe im wrong.

How would we struggle more against NYJ?

Flacco >> Sanchez
Boldin >> Holmes
Rice >> Tomlinson
Mason = Edwards
McGahee > Green

Ravens offense is 10 times better than the Jets offense.

-King- · 12-21-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

They have, no doubt. You're a Top 5 rush defense statistically.

I just think your run defense is more vulnerable than Baltimore's.

And FWIW, I'd prefer to steer clear of Baltimore and Pittsburgh if at all possible.

Yep pretty much. The playoff teams I'd rather face are Jets, Colts, and Pats, in that order.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-21-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

The Chargers RAPED us. The Titans just got off a 6 game losing streak. I'll give you the Raiders and Jags though. As long as we beat the Raiders.

The Raiders are not a "very good team." Not even close.

The only decent teams we've beaten, we've done so when they were at their worst.

SD opening night was nothing resembling the team they are now, and neither was Jacksonville when we played them. They started a ****ing farmer, FFS.

WebGem · 12-21-2010, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Yep pretty much. The playoff teams I'd rather face are Jets, Colts, and Pats, in that order.

If we're playing the Colts in the playoffs, we'll be one win away from the Super Bowl. I'll take that.

DrRyan · 12-21-2010, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Depends on what Sanchez shows up. Sanchez can be really bad or really good. Flacco has been very "meh" this season.

Skipping the ball on the turf on 4th down vs the Steelers will always remain in my mind. I think Flacco shits the bed in big games.

Joe Flacco 62.1% comp 3,395 yards 23 TD 8 INT 94.8 QB rating

Mark Sanchez 54.0% comp 3,022 yards 16 TD 12 INT 74.6 QB rating

Flacco is in the top ten in nearly all the QB categories this season and he has been the driving force of the Ravens offense this year. Their running game has struggled mightily most of the year.

Great take though Detox

Titty Meat · 12-21-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

The Raiders are not a "very good team." Not even close.

The only decent teams we've beaten, we've done so when they were at their worst.

SD opening night was nothing resembling the team they are now, and neither was Jacksonville when we played them. They started a ****ing farmer, FFS.

Totally agree. We won based on an easy schedule but who cares i'll take it? As far as talent goes the gap is still pretty wide between SD and KC IMO. However another good draft and maybe a few solid signings and a trade we'll be pretty close. All can be done this off season.

BigRock · 12-21-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Hell, even if NYJ's run defense was as good as Baltimore's

It is as good. In fact, it's much better. You can't base it on one game.

The Jets give up 3.6 yards a carry. Only 3 teams are better against the run. Baltimore gives up 4.0 yards, which is only two-tenths better than our run defense is. And the Ravens' average used to be worse until the Saints decided to drop back and throw 50 times on Sunday.

The Jets could stop our run game AND they have a shutdown corner. Baltimore might be able to stop our run game, and they might be able to take Bowe out of the equation, but I can't see them doing both at once like the Jets could.

I can see why people would want to play the Jets, since maybe Sanchez shits the bed. But actually expecting us to beat them? If Cassel plays a perfect game, we still probably don't score more than 10 against NY.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-21-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

How would we struggle more against NYJ?

Flacco >> Sanchez
Boldin >> Holmes
Rice >> Tomlinson
Mason = Edwards
McGahee > Green

Ravens offense is 10 times better than the Jets offense.

I'll take the Jets WR's every day of the week against the Raven's WR's.

I agree with your opinion at QB and Rice.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-21-2010, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

It is as good. In fact, it's much better. You can't base it on one game.

The Jets give up 3.6 yards a carry. Only 3 teams are better against the run. Baltimore gives up 4.0 yards, which is only two-tenths better than our run defense is. And the Ravens' average used to be worse until the Saints decided to drop back and throw 50 times on Sunday.

The Jets could stop our run game AND they have a shutdown corner. Baltimore might be able to stop our run game, and they might be able to take Bowe out of the equation, but I can't see them doing both at once like the Jets could.

I can see why people would want to play the Jets, since maybe Sanchez shits the bed. But actually expecting us to beat them? If Cassel plays a perfect game, we still probably don't score more than 10 against NY.

I'm not basing it on one game. I mentioned that statistically, the Jets are a Top 5 rushing defense. But I think they're more vulnerable than Baltimore, and I think our OL matches up much better against their front 7 than Baltimore's.

Not taking anything away from the Jets, just feel Baltimore presents a much, much tougher challenge for us offensively.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-21-2010, 05:18 PM

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