Chiefs vs. Ravens - who wins?

[CoMoChief]

What makes people think BAL isn't going to do what OAK did today? BAL is a much better team. Momentum into the playoffs is HUGE. OAK came into Arrowhead (where no team has won yet this season) and physically pushed KC around ALL....GAME.....LONG. You wanna talk about a letdown game....this was it.

BAL 24 KC 13

[ChiefsFan4Life]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

What makes people think BAL isn't going to do what OAK did today? BAL is a much better team. Momentum into the playoffs is HUGE. OAK came into Arrowhead (where no team has won yet this season) and physically pushed KC around ALL....GAME.....LONG. You wanna talk about a letdown game....this was it.

BAL 24 KC 13

Totally agree with this

[warrior]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

What makes people think BAL isn't going to do what OAK did today? BAL is a much better team. Momentum into the playoffs is HUGE. OAK came into Arrowhead (where no team has won yet this season) and physically pushed KC around ALL....GAME.....LONG. You wanna talk about a letdown game....this was it.

BAL 24 KC 13

Here it is ----the kiss of death to bad Ravens

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by grey redstar

You can win this game, but it all depends on the Ravens game plan. If its shit...congartulations...if they hatch a good plan and use their people correctly...thanks for playing our game and take your consolation prize.

This is what gives me hope. We have a real chance for our coaches to put on a real rape job.

I am in total hope that we come out with DMC and Charles both in the backfield and Tucker, Bowe and Moeaki all on the field and run some scripted no huddle to start the game and catch them off guard. We need to score early.

We need to come out with a alot of stuff that they arent prepared for because of not seeing it on tape throughout the year. Your defense is one of the most well prepared that I have seen and we need to get them on their heels if we are to have a chance.

Originally Posted by Guru

They was double teamin me all night long coach.

ITS NOT POSSIBLE, ITS JUST NOT POSSIBLE.

[AllThingsKC]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

What makes people think BAL isn't going to do what OAK did today? BAL is a much better team. Momentum into the playoffs is HUGE. OAK came into Arrowhead (where no team has won yet this season) and physically pushed KC around ALL....GAME.....LONG. You wanna talk about a letdown game....this was it.

BAL 24 KC 13

ALL GAME LONG? The game was tied at 10 midway in the 3rd Qtr. That's hardly "ALL GAME LONG."

And the Ravens barely beat Cincinnati. Cincinnati screwed up a 4th down play to lose the game in the last seconds. That's not good, that's "luck." They only beat the Bengals by 6 points at home. Impressive! Same thing with Colts/Titans. Colts didn't win because they're good, they won because of luck.

Don't get me wrong, they did get the win and that helps them. And, for all I know the game could be 35-3 Baltimore. But I have a hard time seeing anything but a close game.

[RJ]

Originally Posted by AllThingsKC

ALL GAME LONG? The game was tied at 10 midway in the 3rd Qtr. That's hardly "ALL GAME LONG."

And the Ravens barely beat Cincinnati. Cincinnati screwed up a 4th down play to lose the game in the last seconds. That's not good, that's "luck." They only beat the Bengals by 6 points at home. Impressive! Same thing with Colts/Titans. Colts didn't win because they're good, they won because of luck.

Don't get me wrong, they did get the win and that helps them. And, for all I know the game could be 35-3 Baltimore. But I have a hard time seeing anything but a close game.

The Bengals almost always play well against the ravens. I think it's a Marvin Lewis thing.

[Ugly Duck]

Originally Posted by AllThingsKC

OAK physically pushed KC around ALL GAME LONG?

Dude... KC had a total of 74 yards at halftime. The only reason the Chiefs had 3 points was the Raider fumble DEEP in the red zone. You. Got. Worked.

[WebGem]

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

Dude... KC had a total of 74 yards at halftime. The only reason the Chiefs had 3 points was the Raider fumble DEEP in the red zone. You. Got. Worked.

Yeah and the Raiders went 8-8 and got their ass handed to them a fair share of times. The Chiefs are better than the Raiders, sorry homie.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by ChiefsFan5840

Yeah and the Raiders went 8-8 and got their ass handed to them a fair share of times. The Chiefs are better than the Raiders, sorry homie.

Perhaps the Chiefs are the better team. The raiders sure had the matchups both times though.

[Ugly Duck]

Originally Posted by ChiefsFan5840

The Chiefs are better than the Raiders

Chiefs won the games they had to win, Raiders did not. You deserve the playoffs, we do not. That doesn't justify AllThingsKC's claim that the OAK lines failed to push KC around.

OAK 2, KC 0
OAK 54, KC 30

You. Got. Worked. By. Oakland.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

Chiefs won the games they had to win, Raiders did not. You deserve the playoffs, we do not. That doesn't justify AllThingsKC's claim that the OAK lines failed to push KC around.

OAK 2, KC 0
OAK 54, KC 30

You. Got. Worked. By. Oakland.

I bet the whole team will be over at Cable's house sunday at noon reminiscing.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

Chiefs won the games they had to win, Raiders did not. You deserve the playoffs, we do not. That doesn't justify AllThingsKC's claim that the OAK lines failed to push KC around.

OAK 2, KC 0
OAK 54, KC 30

You. Got. Worked. By. Oakland.

Everybody seems to forget, but the Chiefs worked themselves in that first game. What was it, 10-0 KC at halftime? And probably should've been much worse. Then it was back-and-forth in the second half. Hell, we even won the toss in overtime and still couldn't win the game. Handed it to you on a silver platter.

That was one of the two major moments of late game suck that we had this year, the other being Houston, where we gave up a ten point lead in the last ten minutes of the game.

[AllThingsKC]

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

Chiefs won the games they had to win, Raiders did not. You deserve the playoffs, we do not. That doesn't justify AllThingsKC's claim that the OAK lines failed to push KC around.

OAK 2, KC 0
OAK 54, KC 30

You. Got. Worked. By. Oakland.

I'm not saying that the Chiefs didn't get worked over by Oakland. I just don't think they got worked over until midway in the 3 Qtr, and which point, the Chiefs seemed say, "F it, let's get ready for next week."

You mentioned the Chiefs had 74 yards at halftime. So what? What was the halftime score? 10-3 Oakland. That's hardly "getting worked over." Were the Chiefs "getting worked over" when they tied the game at 10? Not if you looked at the score at that time.

[WebGem]

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

Chiefs won the games they had to win, Raiders did not. You deserve the playoffs, we do not. That doesn't justify AllThingsKC's claim that the OAK lines failed to push KC around.

OAK 2, KC 0
OAK 54, KC 30

You. Got. Worked. By. Oakland.

If Dwayne Bowe caught a pass that was right in his hands Oakland would have lost to the Chiefs on their home field. Did the Raiders physically beat the Chiefs that day? Yeah. But when your team is in a position where if an NFL WR catches a pass you lose the game, you did something wrong, or your team just isn't as good as the other team. And yes I know Bowe has a lot of drops and it's an "if", but it's not a very big "if" at all - he catches that particular pass probably 75-80% of the time.

The game in KC didn't matter all that much for KC, and I really think that if the playoffs were on the line the game would have been a lot different. Do I have any evidence to support that? No, except when you look at history in this league teams perform far better when they NEED to win. By no means did the Chiefs need that game. Also compare what I just said to your quote above, that's a pretty big problem if you can't win the games you really need.

I've defended Oakland in arguments this year with other non AFC West fans, I thought they were headed in the right direction until what Al Davis did couple days ago. In a sick sort of way I liked it, because having KC/OAK on top of the west fighting for division titles for 5 years would be fun as hell. But when rival teams are in the playoffs I don't go posting shit on their board and act like its a moral victory (nor do I think it is) when they lose in the playoffs. I talk about it on my own teams board, or I just sit in my room and watch them lose AFC title games to Shittsburgh or get ****ed in the ass by the Bucs in the Super Bowl and laugh by myself.

You're not even one of the Raiders fan that usually gets on my nerves, and I guess you're really not here either. I also know you're a respected Raiders fan here on CP, and you're also sort of right in what you're saying, I didn't read the entire thread. But what is the point of saying we got worked by Oakland? Are you claiming Oakland exposed how to get to Cassel and completely **** him up and they ruined any chance KC had vs Baltimore by doing so? Because I really don't think that's the case. I really believe the fact KC just didn't need the game all that bad had something to do with the Week 17 game, and the first game really wasn't anywhere near as bad.