Chiefs vs. Ravens - who wins?

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Time to go on record.

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The ESPN "Expert" picks are in. 3 for the good guys, 5 for the bad guys, and AccuScore/SportsNation also with the bad guys. Don't worry though, we got this.

[Spott]

24-7 Ravens.

[Ugly Duck]

Chiefs the Surprise Team?

[Ugly Duck]

Originally Posted by AllThingsKC

OAK physically pushed KC around ALL GAME LONG?

Dude... KC had a total of 74 yards at halftime. The only reason the Chiefs had 3 points was the Raider fumble DEEP in the red zone. You. Got. Worked.

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

Chiefs the Surprise Team?

Can't wait til all these mother ****ers are wrong. It's gonna be too awesome.

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

Dude... KC had a total of 74 yards at halftime. The only reason the Chiefs had 3 points was the Raider fumble DEEP in the red zone. You. Got. Worked.

Yeah and the Raiders went 8-8 and got their ass handed to them a fair share of times. The Chiefs are better than the Raiders, sorry homie.

[FloridaMan88]

Chiefs 23 Ravens 17

Chiefs hold a slight 16-10 lead heading into the 4th, with mostly FG ending drives. The Ravens strike with a TD going up 17-16 and then Cassel orchestrates a final drive, giving the Chiefs the game winning TD... a TD strike to Chris Chambers (images of Joe Montana to Tim Barnett vs Pittsburgh in the '93 Wild Card Game).

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by ChiefsFan5840

Yeah and the Raiders went 8-8 and got their ass handed to them a fair share of times. The Chiefs are better than the Raiders, sorry homie.

Perhaps the Chiefs are the better team. The raiders sure had the matchups both times though.

[Ugly Duck]

Originally Posted by ChiefsFan5840

The Chiefs are better than the Raiders

Chiefs won the games they had to win, Raiders did not. You deserve the playoffs, we do not. That doesn't justify AllThingsKC's claim that the OAK lines failed to push KC around.

OAK 2, KC 0
OAK 54, KC 30

You. Got. Worked. By. Oakland.

[Lbedrock1]

According to madden nfl 2011 on the x-box the score will be 28-0 Chiefs. J. Charles rushed for 111 yards and it was the tight end that was key. Barry got a INT and the D came up big. D. Johnson got a INT for a TD late in the
4th Quarter. I think it will be pretty accurate + or - 7 points.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

Chiefs won the games they had to win, Raiders did not. You deserve the playoffs, we do not. That doesn't justify AllThingsKC's claim that the OAK lines failed to push KC around.

OAK 2, KC 0
OAK 54, KC 30

You. Got. Worked. By. Oakland.

I bet the whole team will be over at Cable's house sunday at noon reminiscing.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

Chiefs won the games they had to win, Raiders did not. You deserve the playoffs, we do not. That doesn't justify AllThingsKC's claim that the OAK lines failed to push KC around.

OAK 2, KC 0
OAK 54, KC 30

You. Got. Worked. By. Oakland.

Everybody seems to forget, but the Chiefs worked themselves in that first game. What was it, 10-0 KC at halftime? And probably should've been much worse. Then it was back-and-forth in the second half. Hell, we even won the toss in overtime and still couldn't win the game. Handed it to you on a silver platter.

That was one of the two major moments of late game suck that we had this year, the other being Houston, where we gave up a ten point lead in the last ten minutes of the game.

[AllThingsKC]

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

Chiefs won the games they had to win, Raiders did not. You deserve the playoffs, we do not. That doesn't justify AllThingsKC's claim that the OAK lines failed to push KC around.

OAK 2, KC 0
OAK 54, KC 30

You. Got. Worked. By. Oakland.

I'm not saying that the Chiefs didn't get worked over by Oakland. I just don't think they got worked over until midway in the 3 Qtr, and which point, the Chiefs seemed say, "F it, let's get ready for next week."

You mentioned the Chiefs had 74 yards at halftime. So what? What was the halftime score? 10-3 Oakland. That's hardly "getting worked over." Were the Chiefs "getting worked over" when they tied the game at 10? Not if you looked at the score at that time.

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

Chiefs won the games they had to win, Raiders did not. You deserve the playoffs, we do not. That doesn't justify AllThingsKC's claim that the OAK lines failed to push KC around.

OAK 2, KC 0
OAK 54, KC 30

You. Got. Worked. By. Oakland.

If Dwayne Bowe caught a pass that was right in his hands Oakland would have lost to the Chiefs on their home field. Did the Raiders physically beat the Chiefs that day? Yeah. But when your team is in a position where if an NFL WR catches a pass you lose the game, you did something wrong, or your team just isn't as good as the other team. And yes I know Bowe has a lot of drops and it's an "if", but it's not a very big "if" at all - he catches that particular pass probably 75-80% of the time.

The game in KC didn't matter all that much for KC, and I really think that if the playoffs were on the line the game would have been a lot different. Do I have any evidence to support that? No, except when you look at history in this league teams perform far better when they NEED to win. By no means did the Chiefs need that game. Also compare what I just said to your quote above, that's a pretty big problem if you can't win the games you really need.

I've defended Oakland in arguments this year with other non AFC West fans, I thought they were headed in the right direction until what Al Davis did couple days ago. In a sick sort of way I liked it, because having KC/OAK on top of the west fighting for division titles for 5 years would be fun as hell. But when rival teams are in the playoffs I don't go posting shit on their board and act like its a moral victory (nor do I think it is) when they lose in the playoffs. I talk about it on my own teams board, or I just sit in my room and watch them lose AFC title games to Shittsburgh or get ****ed in the ass by the Bucs in the Super Bowl and laugh by myself.

You're not even one of the Raiders fan that usually gets on my nerves, and I guess you're really not here either. I also know you're a respected Raiders fan here on CP, and you're also sort of right in what you're saying, I didn't read the entire thread. But what is the point of saying we got worked by Oakland? Are you claiming Oakland exposed how to get to Cassel and completely **** him up and they ruined any chance KC had vs Baltimore by doing so? Because I really don't think that's the case. I really believe the fact KC just didn't need the game all that bad had something to do with the Week 17 game, and the first game really wasn't anywhere near as bad.

[rpcfball]

hey all, ravens fan here. this is the way i see it

for all of you praying for a fast chief's start: don't count on it, and dont be discouraged when you dont get it. the ravens start fast but have no killer instinct whatsoever, specifically cam cameron and the offense. grey redstar is dead on in that aspect

they have had 10 point leads over new england and buffalo in the 4th quarter and blew both of those. we had a 28-7 lead against houston and, if not for a big pick-6 in overtime, the texans have another 85+ yard drive to win the game. against tampa and cincy we had two touchdown leads and they had the ball to win or tie the game at the end but couldnt. and we sat on the ball the entire 2nd half against the steelers

we let teams hangaround and have not put teams away all season. in the games afforementioned we have been outscored in the 4th quarter 59-3 so if the chiefs are down by two touchdowns in the 4th (which i expect them to be) dont count them out

dont get me wrong, the ravens are a very talented team but i expect this game to be very close. hopefully the chiefs comeback falls just short
BAL 24
KC 20

good luck and congrats on a great season. GO RAVENS!!!