Mike Mayock comments on top 3 QBs.

[Chiefnj2]

Out of the 3 top qb's comming into the draft who can you see as the biggest RISK pick Bradford,Mccoy,Clausen?

Mike Mayock, NFL Network
Hey Fred, interesting question. I like Jimmy Clausen, but I see him as the biggest risk. Even though he comes out of a pro-style offense. Bradford is very, very solid. And I think McCoy is a little bit mroe of a developmental play, but easily the best athlete of the three. Clausen, for me, needs to be more consistent in the pocket and needs to make more consistent throws.


So, Mayock thinks Clausen is a bigger risk/bust potential than Bradford and McCoy.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Stunningly, one of the guys from NFLDC says that Solder was a turnstile this week and consistently got beaten across his face. "Couldn't move to his right to stop anyone".

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Stunningly, one of the guys from NFLDC says that Solder was a turnstile this week and consistently got beaten across his face. "Couldn't move to his right to stop anyone".

As I said before, I need to see more film.. anything at this point is just guesswork for me... but I still wouldn't be surprised to see him succeed at the next level.

As per NFLDC, I trust very few internet talent evaluators ... Walter from Walter Football may actually be functionally reeruned and people seem to listen to him every year... same with Mike Florio.

Truth be told, I trust YOUR opinion on him more than most of the faceless internet pundits.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Stunningly, one of the guys from NFLDC says that Solder was a turnstile this week and consistently got beaten across his face. "Couldn't move to his right to stop anyone".

btw... as of a week ago, NFLDC had Solder going #22.. so it's safe to say that no one has any idea at this point...

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

btw... as of a week ago, NFLDC had Solder going #22.. so it's safe to say that no one has any idea at this point...

They still said he has huge upside, which is true, but he also has a good deal of very troublesome tape.

The guy could be an elite left tackle if he fulfills his athletic potential, but for as good as he is at getting to the second level, he seems to struggle in space against pass rushers. It's an odd dichotomy.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

They still said he has huge upside, which is true, but he also has a good deal of very troublesome tape.

The guy could be an elite left tackle if he fulfills his athletic potential, but for as good as he is at getting to the second level, he seems to struggle in space against pass rushers. It's an odd dichotomy.

Lack of experience and coaching IMHO.. he is a converted TE... if he bulks up and gets lucky with a goad coach at the next level... he could be great... I'll revisit this more when I have more info on him.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

What I'd be worried about if I were looking at him as a prospect is that he kind of reminds me of a much better Gerald Cadogan. Both guys are tremendously talented, and both had elite intangibles, but they both seem to have a softness that is incompatible with the talent jump.

YMMV.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Solder got his ass whipped in pass pro on multiple occasions in the Senior Bowl.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Solder got his ass whipped in pass pro on multiple occasions in the Senior Bowl.

I think it's been a consistent that the defensive linemen usually have the upperhand over the offensive linemen at the Senior Bowl.

As with Solder, I thought that Costanzo, in the Senior Bowl, didn't look half as good as what he showed over the course of his career.

And Solder is a bit of a project, but there is no denying his amazing athleticism at his size. He did have a very good Senior season where he was first team Walter Camp, first team AP AA, etc., etc., etc.

Between Solder, Costanzo, Carimi and Ziemba, you've got four guys who are vitually identical. All above 6'7", 300 lbs. and incredibly long, pretty athletic for their sized and all show very good skill sets. They'd all fit in Haley's offensive scheme on either side.

I think it's a very real possibility that the Chiefs would consider one of these guys in the first round if they were sitting there when the teams draft pick came up.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I think it's a very real possibility that the Chiefs would consider one of these guys in the first round if they were sitting there when the teams draft pick came up.

Not this shit again.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Not this shit again.

If he says it enough years in a row he'll eventually be right. Kind of like people saying "the world is ending!" for hundreds of years.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

If he says it enough years in a row he'll eventually be right. Kind of like people saying "the world is ending!" for hundreds of years.

Albert isn't going anywhere so this whole point in stupid unless you are talking taking a RT. I'm all for taking a RT in the 1st round of the draft when you have your franchine QB, a great core or WR's and a pretty stout defense and may move him over to LT some day.. EX Packers taking Baluga.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Not this shit again.

I'm just trying to be realistic. Richardson was pulled from a game because he was missing his blocks. Callaghan might actually be worse. And Albert is, at best, mediocre. And that's it for tackles on this team. There is no depth and a low talent level. That's a fact.

However, for whatever reason, people around here still think that the Chiefs can win the Super Bowl by picking yet another defensive player in the first round and populating their offensive line with undrafted free agents.

Good luck with that, especially when we get to line up against Ndamukong Suh, Clay Matthews, Jared Allen and Julius Peppers and the rest of the NFC North next season plus the Steelers and Patriots and Colts. (Not too mention the four games against the Raiders and Chargers, who were second in the NFL in sacks last season, plus the return of Dumervil.)

You're really going to get a first hand look at the quality of our offensive line this next season.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I'm just trying to be realistic. Richardson was pulled from a game because he was missing his blocks. Callaghan might actually be worse. And Albert is, at best, mediocre. And that's it for tackles on this team. There is no depth and a low talent level. That's a fact.

However, for whatever reason, people around here still think that the Chiefs can win the Super Bowl by picking yet another defensive player in the first round and populating their offensive line with undrafted free agents.

Good luck with that, especially when we get to line up against Ndamukong Suh, Clay Matthews, Jared Allen and Julius Peppers and the rest of the NFC North next season plus the Steelers and Patriots and Colts. (Not too mention the four games against the Raiders and Chargers, who were second in the NFL in sacks last season, plus the return of Dumervil.)

You're really going to get a first hand look at the quality of our offensive line this next season.

I guess the difference is our view of Albert. I think he is above avg at LT and there is really no where to move him anyways unless he flips over to RT which I doubt. Our interior line will be either Waters, Asamoah, Lilja or Asamoah and Lija at guard. Richardson is pretty good at run blocking but is a pass blocking liabiilty. If we want to upgrade that fine, but not in first round. I would to that through FA or a middle round pick.

I don't think pass protection was all that bad in the Ravens game either. There was just nobody open. If you want to improve the line get some WR that can get seperation so Cassell doesn't have to hold the ball so long.

However, the defense got shredded a few times this year, most notable against the Chargers and Broncos. A NT that can push the pocket and another OLB that can actually get pressure, or a WR or 2 that has speed will make a much more noticable impatct on the team then another OL in my opinion.

I also don't think you get someone at 21 that is an upgrade to Albert this year.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Of the top level tackles, I think I'd prefer Carimi at this point.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I'm just trying to be realistic. Richardson was pulled from a game because he was missing his blocks. Callaghan might actually be worse. And Albert is, at best, mediocre. And that's it for tackles on this team. There is no depth and a low talent level. That's a fact.

However, for whatever reason, people around here still think that the Chiefs can win the Super Bowl by picking yet another defensive player in the first round and populating their offensive line with undrafted free agents.

Good luck with that, especially when we get to line up against Ndamukong Suh, Clay Matthews, Jared Allen and Julius Peppers and the rest of the NFC North next season plus the Steelers and Patriots and Colts. (Not too mention the four games against the Raiders and Chargers, who were second in the NFL in sacks last season, plus the return of Dumervil.)

You're really going to get a first hand look at the quality of our offensive line this next season.

Wow you are an IDIOT! Richardson was NOT pulled from a game for missing multiple blocks! Even "if" that was the reason, the solution would not be to put O'Callaghan in his place. That would only make the problem worse.

The reason B-Rich was pulled is b/c he had a false start on n 3rd and goal from the 3. It was his second false start on the day and he was pulled b/c his lack of focus was hurting the team. Two plays later, Cassel was sacked and we turned it over on downs. That said, it definitely fired Richardson up and he didn't have any more false starts the rest of the day.


2nd Qtr.

1-10-KC 36 (10:58) (Run formation) PENALTY on KC-67-B.Richardson, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at KC 36 - No Play.

3rd Qtr.

- 3-3-DEN 3 (9:25) (Shotgun) PENALTY on KC-67-B.Richardson, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at DEN 3 - No Play.

-3-8-DEN 8 (8:21) 25-J.Charles left tackle to DEN 2 for 6 yards (52-J.Hunter).

-4-2-DEN 2 (7:37) 7-M.Cassel sacked at DEN 15 for -13 yards (57-M.Haggan).

No points on that drive. Richardson had a problem with false starts all year. Missing blocks isn't why he was pulled, everyone missed blocks that day. The Broncos blitzed the whole game and these players hadn't been coached well enough to pick them up.