Sac's February Mock - Best Yet!

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

I'm not a fan of Costanzo at all.

Based on his mouth foaming declaration of how amazing Okung would be I'd be a bit leery of this guy on Sac's boner alone...

Okung had a very good rookie year. Completely shut down Hali in their matchup. The guy will be a very good pro.

Costanzo is not an Okung/Thomas level player.

However, he is a very good offensive lineman that is very smart, has an excellent work ethic, has a very good skill set (hands and feet are very good with an excellent kick step) and is quite athletic for a guy his size. He's got a ton of experience at the left tackle spot in a pro style set. There are worse draft picks that the Chiefs could make and with the top receivers and OLB's likely off the board by the 21st pick and no NT or C (and Wisniewski is not a true center - he played guard for Penn State) worthy of a first round pick, OT will be a very viable selection at that point in the draft with Costanzo being the player with the most upside in this system IMO. (If he is available at that point.) Considering the Chiefs struggles at that position for the past five years plus, a top quality offensive tackle is a very good value at the 21st pick for this team.

Costanzo, Carimi, Sherrod all have extensive starting experience and would be viable picks. I wouldn't even mind the upside of a Tyron Smith there either.

It's the second rounder that is going to present quite the conundrum for the Chiefs front office/coaching staff. There is going to be a lot of players at that spot that the Chiefs could use.

[salame]

maybe we should just draft 7 O-lineman

[cabletech94]

Originally Posted by salame

maybe we should just draft 7 O-lineman

surely we'd get one that took?

[RealSNR]

People are having their periods over the 3 Olinemen

In this mock, though, we've covered a lot of needs and that's not even including the extra 5th round pick we have.

I remember when San Diego sucked eggs on the line. They drafted McNeil and two others in one draft and that cleaned up their problems right away.

I'm not demanding a superior line or anything, but we need depth at all positions and some starters should probably get replaced. I'm totally fine with it.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by SNR

People are having their periods over the 3 Olinemen

In this mock, though, we've covered a lot of needs and that's not even including the extra 5th round pick we have.

I remember when San Diego sucked eggs on the line. They drafted McNeil and two others in one draft and that cleaned up their problems right away.

I'm not demanding a superior line or anything, but we need depth at all positions and some starters should probably get replaced. I'm totally fine with it.

Is that conditional an official fifth rounder? I haven't seen it mentioned, so I didn't include it in my mocks.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Is that conditional an official fifth rounder? I haven't seen it mentioned, so I didn't include it in my mocks.

I remember the Chiefs sent away Alex Magee and an extra pick for Tampa's 5th

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by SNR

I remember the Chiefs sent away Alex Magee and an extra pick for Tampa's 5th

We don't yet know which of Tampa's 5th's we received. It's either Denvers pick or Tampa's pick.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Rams Fan

On the other side of the line, what about Smith?

Originally Posted by jd1020

We don't yet know which of Tampa's 5th's we received. It's either Denvers pick or Tampa's pick.

Sure hope it's Dungver's.

[spanky 52]

I've seen where the fifth round picks are #l48 and #151. Is is true we don't have a sixth?

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by spanky 52

I've seen where the fifth round picks are #l48 and #151. Is is true we don't have a sixth?

we traded magee and a 6th for a 5th, i think

[KurtCobain]

I do want Powe bad. You sure he'll be there in the third?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by KurtCobain

I do want Powe bad. You sure he'll be there in the third?

Hmmm...a good question actually.

Let's see, there are, by my count, currently 16 teams that run a 3-4 defense:

Kansas City, Dallas, Jets, Packers, Dolphins, Ravens, Bills, Cardinals, 49ers, Steelers, Redskins, Chargers, Broncos, Browns, Patriots and Texans.

Dallas (Ratliffe), Jets (Pouha), Packers (Raji), Dolphins (Soliai - what's with all these Utes at NT, BTW?), Ravens (Gregg/Cody), Bills (Williams - best NT in the NFL IMO), Cardinals (Robinson/Williams), 49ers (Franklin), Patriots (Willfork) and Steelers (Hampton) all have solid players entrenched at the position.

Several are free agents, but I expect all will be resigned by their respective teams.

Chargers drafted Cam Thomas in 2010 to play the position.

Broncos and Browns will be switching to a 4-3.

Redskins will probably be looking for one, especially considering that Haynesworth refuses to play NT in a 3-4, and was just accused of (another) road rage incident and will probably be in custody later today on that charge. I see the Redskins trying to jettison him.

Texans need a guy.

Chiefs need a guy, but who knows with Pioli.

One team for certain will be looking to fill the 3-4 NT spot in the 2011 draft.

Two teams (Chiefs and Redskins) will probably be looking for a 3-4 NT in the 2011 draft.

The others might pick one up later in the draft as a project, but I don't see that happening before the third or fourth round unless a team falls in love with a guy. And I don't see that happening with Powe, who was average this past season and didn't get a Senior Bowl or Shrine invite (which usually goes out to the top guys).

Phil Taylor of Baylor is the top NT in the draft. He's got prototype size and excellent athletic ability for a guy that big. He was killing guys at the Senior Bowl. He could possible go in the first to a team like Pittsburgh, but he probably wouldn't make it past Houston in the second round at pick 42.

Sione Fua of Stanford played extremely well in the Cardinals switch to a 3-4 this past season and is probably regarded as the second best true 3-4 NT in the draft. Depending on what teams do in the first with the DT position, Fua could be a 2nd, 3rd or 4th round pick in either a 4-3 or 3-4 defense.

The next guy off the board at that position is going to be between Powe, Ellis of Hampton and Williams of Notre Dame. Ellis is an absolute monster with the total package. Depends on if the pro guys thought he was just bored at the DII level or is actually an unmotivated dude. Williams has good (not great) size and plays hard. Powe is what he is, a huge dude that's going to tie up blockers. He's not a penetrator, but that's not what you expect out of a NT.

Yeah, I think he'll be there in the third. I wouldn't roll the dice that he'd be there in the fourth however.

[BigCatDaddy]

This isn't too bad for the most part, but I would still go OLB with the 1 instead of of the Tackle.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

This isn't too bad for the most part, but I would still go OLB with the 1 instead of of the Tackle.

Miller won't fall after his Senior Bowl performance. If he did, all day long.

If Ayers is there...maybe.

After that, I don't think that there is a quality 3-4 LOLB prospect worth a first rounder. Houston and Smith are both 4-3 college ends that were dedicated pass rushers only. They are tweeners that might not have the capability of falling back into pass protection or providing quality run support at the next level. That's a lot to expect and a lot of unanswered questions to take a chance on with a first rounder that needs to come right in and provide quality playing time.

As well, Studebaker was getting more and more reps by the end of the season and we have no idea on what the potential of Sheffield is, though the coaching staff likes him a lot. I just don't think that taking a gamble on a guy who is going to be a project at a position where there is some depth is worth a first for this team right now.

[Rams Fan]

Sac, what do you think of Saffold?