Football Who is worst QB in the division?

Thig Lyfe · 08-29-2011, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Okay?

And your basing this on what, besides your personal agenda?

What are you using to come to this conclusion?

I dont care for Cassel either, but Jesus, use at least a little common sense when you post shit like this...

It would be like me trying to convenience everyone that Herm Edwards was a good football coach. It just doesnt make sense...

I'm basing it on FACTS, SON.

Reerun_KC · 08-29-2011, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer

I'm basing it on FACTS, SON.

And what would those facts be?

Let see them for our own personal gain in knowledge of the QB position.

Thig Lyfe · 08-29-2011, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

And what would those facts be?

Let see them for our own personal gain in knowledge of the QB position.

Cassel + x = truth

Cassel = x

Cassel + Cassel = sucks

therefore sucks = truth and Cassel is the worst

YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD

Reerun_KC · 08-29-2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer

Cassel + x = truth

Cassel = x

Cassel + Cassel = sucks

therefore sucks = truth and Cassel is the worst

YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD

WTF are you 12?

Less discuss the facts and try not to be lame about it...

Thig Lyfe · 08-29-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

WTF are you 12?

Less discuss the facts and try not to be lame about it...

Um, could a 12 year old do ADVANCED CALCULUS like that??? I DON'T THINK SO.

GET OUT OF MY HOUSE

**Ming the Merciless** · 08-29-2011, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer

Cassel + x = truth

Cassel = x

x+x=truth
2x=truth
x=truth/2

truth/2 = half truth

you only telling a half truth as usual

half truth = LIE

QED

Inspector · 09-26-2011, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

x+x=truth
2x=truth
x=truth/2

truth/2 = half truth

you only telling a half truth as usual

half truth = LIE

QED

You kids and your new math. No wonder I can't help my grandkids with homework.

Ugly Duck · 09-28-2011, 04:29 PM

ESPN Insider sez Campbell is NOT the worst AFCW QB:

It is clear this team is not the same old Raiders. In fact, it looks like a bona fide playoff contender. The obvious place to start is to note the play of Darren McFadden. He has always been a dominant player (he was every bit as good as Jamaal Charles on a per-game basis the past three years) but his early MVP-like start is finally getting him the acclaim he deserves as one of the NFL's best running backs. But space may be opening for McFadden because of the progress quarterback Jason Campbell has made in his second year in coach Hue Jackson's system. Campbell ranks in the top 10 in the league in both Total QBR and in passer rating. Campbell has also made zero bad decisions (defined as when a quarterback makes a mistake with the ball that leads either to a turnover or a near turnover (such as a dropped interception or fumble recovered by the offense) this season, so it isn't as if his numbers are the result of luck.

He's not just throwing a bunch of safe passes, either -- 31 percent of his throws have been of the vertical variety (vertical being defined as aerials thrown 11 or more yards downfield). That Campbell is gaining 11.8 yards per attempt (YPA) on those vertical throws is impressive enough (only five quarterbacks last year finished the season with a vertical YPA that high), but what makes it even more notable is that it has been largely achieved without the services of Louis Murphy, Jacoby Ford and Kevin Boss. All three have missed significant time because of injury and yet Campbell and the offense have continued to thrive.

One reason Campbell is having success on downfield passes is the superb job the Raiders' blocking wall has done in protecting him. Oakland has allowed only two sacks this season (a total that is tied for the lowest in the NFL) and one of those occurred on a fluke play when McFadden tripped Campbell while trying to make a block. That Oakland has achieved this total while having a second-year player (Jared Veldheer) at left tackle and a rookie (Stefen Wisniewski) at left guard speaks volumes for how well this group has been coached.

For the 2011 Raiders, that formula could mean as many as 10 wins and a spot in the playoffs.

View Poll Results: Who sucks the most?
Campbell	123	57.75%
Cassel	81	38.03%
Orton	9	4.23%
Voters: 213. You may not vote on this poll

09-28-2011, 04:29 PM	#8
Ugly Duck MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Petaluma, CA, USA Casino cash: $9955920	ESPN Insider sez Campbell is NOT the worst AFCW QB: It is clear this team is not the same old Raiders. In fact, it looks like a bona fide playoff contender. The obvious place to start is to note the play of Darren McFadden. He has always been a dominant player (he was every bit as good as Jamaal Charles on a per-game basis the past three years) but his early MVP-like start is finally getting him the acclaim he deserves as one of the NFL's best running backs. But space may be opening for McFadden because of the progress quarterback Jason Campbell has made in his second year in coach Hue Jackson's system. Campbell ranks in the top 10 in the league in both Total QBR and in passer rating. Campbell has also made zero bad decisions (defined as when a quarterback makes a mistake with the ball that leads either to a turnover or a near turnover (such as a dropped interception or fumble recovered by the offense) this season, so it isn't as if his numbers are the result of luck. He's not just throwing a bunch of safe passes, either -- 31 percent of his throws have been of the vertical variety (vertical being defined as aerials thrown 11 or more yards downfield). That Campbell is gaining 11.8 yards per attempt (YPA) on those vertical throws is impressive enough (only five quarterbacks last year finished the season with a vertical YPA that high), but what makes it even more notable is that it has been largely achieved without the services of Louis Murphy, Jacoby Ford and Kevin Boss. All three have missed significant time because of injury and yet Campbell and the offense have continued to thrive. One reason Campbell is having success on downfield passes is the superb job the Raiders' blocking wall has done in protecting him. Oakland has allowed only two sacks this season (a total that is tied for the lowest in the NFL) and one of those occurred on a fluke play when McFadden tripped Campbell while trying to make a block. That Oakland has achieved this total while having a second-year player (Jared Veldheer) at left tackle and a rookie (Stefen Wisniewski) at left guard speaks volumes for how well this group has been coached. For the 2011 Raiders, that formula could mean as many as 10 wins and a spot in the playoffs. __________________ “In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion.” ― Carl Sagan
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