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Old 09-03-2011, 08:49 AM   #1
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Haley said that because players underwent a training camp light with contact during practices, they weren’t prepared for the hits they’ll take in games. Haley said Charles and others — the Chiefs fumbled four times Thursday, losing three of them among their five turnovers — clearly hadn’t done enough work on preventing fumbles.

“It’s what we talk about as a staff,” Haley said, “that we need to catch up on the back end and make sure that we’re doing enough ball security. We obviously haven’t done enough.”
Ok...so 'The Plan' was to do more meetings, movie nights and light practices because of the lockout and now 'The Plan' is to play catch up because the team is behind and not ready for contact? WTF? This is Herm Edwards kind of stuff...
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Old 09-03-2011, 08:51 AM   #2
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Ok...so 'The Plan' was to do more meetings, movie nights and light practices because of the lockout and now 'The Plan' is to play catch up because the team is behind and not ready for contact? WTF? This is Herm Edwards kind of stuff...
Sadly, the truth.
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Old 09-03-2011, 09:09 AM   #3
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Ok...so 'The Plan' was to do more meetings, movie nights and light practices because of the lockout and now 'The Plan' is to play catch up because the team is behind and not ready for contact? WTF? This is Herm Edwards kind of stuff...
The plan was to get these guys into football shape in hopes of avoiding injury to key players before the season started.

If that mean't that the Chiefs were late getting rhythm and chemsitry established, that was a problem that Haley was willing to deal with.
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Old 09-03-2011, 09:37 AM   #4
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The plan was to get these guys into football shape...
Does football shape include being ready for contact so that the RB's dont fumble? If so, Haley's admitted they are now behind. They wont be able to catchup during the season, it takes the entire week to prepare for the upcoming opponent.
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Old 09-03-2011, 09:41 AM   #5
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Does football shape include being ready for contact so that the RB's dont fumble? If so, Haley's admitted they are now behind. They wont be able to catchup during the season, it takes the entire week to prepare for the upcoming opponent.
Holding onto the football is an individula problem, and Charles has had that problem in the past.
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Old 09-03-2011, 09:45 AM   #6
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Holding onto the football is an individula problem, and Charles has had that problem in the past.
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This wasn’t the type of play Charles is known for. He is perhaps the Chiefs’ most explosive player, and other than seven fumbles over his two seasons as a starter — he racked up 2,587 yards in the process — he’s not known as a careless player. He has, in that time, fumbled once for every 60 carries; on Thursday, he fumbled once per 4 1/2 carries.
yep...clearly a past problem.
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Old 09-03-2011, 09:58 AM   #7
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The plan was to get these guys into football shape in hopes of avoiding injury to key players before the season started.

If that mean't that the Chiefs were late getting rhythm and chemsitry established, that was a problem that Haley was willing to deal with.
Nevermind. Looks like MM already stated the obvious.
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Old 09-03-2011, 10:16 AM   #8
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The plan was to get these guys into football shape in hopes of avoiding injury to key players before the season started.

If that mean't that the Chiefs were late getting rhythm and chemsitry established, that was a problem that Haley was willing to deal with.
I do think that was the plan. But at the same time, when they came out in Thursday's game and gave the starters considerably more time, we saw starters begin to drop like flies. Charles limps off(thankfully comes back), Richardson limps off, Moeaki limps off, Cassel limps off, etc.

They're sacrificing rhythm and chemistry, yet when they give the starters considerable time, they're still getting injured. I just question whether injury prevention was worth neglecting the chemistry and momentum of this young team.
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I do think that was the plan. But at the same time, when they came out in Thursday's game and gave the starters considerably more time, we saw starters begin to drop like flies. Charles limps off(thankfully comes back), Richardson limps off, Moeaki limps off, Cassel limps off, etc.

They're sacrificing rhythm and chemistry, yet when they give the starters considerable time, they're still getting injured. I just question whether injury prevention was worth neglecting the chemistry and momentum of this young team.
IMO - it was not. They have some very "winnable" games the early part of the season. In fact, one could argue that they are "must wins" because of how difficult thier schedule gets later in the season. It appears they are heading for a slow start. I don't think that would be the case ahd the starters had more playing time during the preseason.
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Ok...so 'The Plan' was to do more meetings, movie nights and light practices because of the lockout and now 'The Plan' is to play catch up because the team is behind and not ready for contact? WTF? This is Herm Edwards kind of stuff...
We missed one, ONE ****ing practice because of a movie, and of course they started out light. It was a very long off-season, and Haley is notorious for believing players should be in football shape before going full bore so as to prevent injuries.
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Old 09-03-2011, 10:16 AM   #11
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We missed one, ONE ****ing practice because of a movie, and of course they started out light. It was a very long off-season, and Haley is notorious for believing players should be in football shape before going full bore so as to prevent injuries.
I think we they will see a movie every year in camp with Haley. I think it will be a Haley trademark tradition.
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