Green Day singer booted off flight because of saggy pants

[Deberg_1990]

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Green Day frontman Billie Joe Armstrong was booted off a Southwest Airlines flight Thursday night in Oakland for wearing his pants too low.

The Oakland punk rocker was traveling from Oakland to Burbank on a 6:40 p.m. flight when he was ordered off the plane after a heated argument with a flight attendant, a witness said.

"Just got kicked off a southwest flight because my pants sagged too low! What the (expletive)? No joke!" Armstrong tweeted that night.

Cindy Qiu, an Oakland resident flying south for the three-day weekend, had just settled into her aisle seat about 10 rows from the back when the exchange happened.

"It was a quick argument. A very tense 30 seconds," said Qiu, an associate producer for news website 7Live.

A male flight attendant in his 50s tracked down Armstrong and a male companion as they attempted to stow their bags in the overhead bins, she said.

"The flight attendant walked up to him and said, 'Pull your pants up,'" she said. "And (Armstrong) said, 'Don't you have more important things to do?'"

The male flight attendant again asked him to pull his pants up and warned him he would be kicked off the flight if he did not.

"I'm just trying to get in my (expletive) seat," the rocker responded Qiu said.

And just like that, the musician, a Rodeo native, and his friend were escorted off the plane with the flight attendant. Once the steward returned, the flight left, about 20 minutes late, Qiu said.

Southwest Airlines responded to the incident in an email late Friday.

"As soon as we became aware of what had happened, we reached out to apologize for this customer's experience," said Brad Hawkins, a Southwest spokesman. "He elected to take the next flight. We followed up with this customer and involved employees to get more details and, in our latest conversations, understand from the customer the situation was resolved to his satisfaction."

Calls to Armstrong's management were not immediately returned. Alameda County Sheriff's spokesman J.D. Nelson said his agency, which staffs Oakland airport, never responded to the Thursday night incident.

The argument was tense enough that Qiu, who did not immediately recognize Armstrong, said she avoided eye contact and never fully saw the rocker's alleged saggy pants a few feet away.

During the short flight, rumors circulated that the Green Day frontman was the ejected sagger and Qiu said she only realized who he was when she checked his Twitter page when she reached her destination.

It was not the first Bay Area airport saggy-pants imbroglio.

On June 12, a University of New Mexico football player was kicked off a U.S. Airways flight bound for Albuquerque from San Francisco over his saggy pants. Deshon Marman is now suing the airline over the incident.

Some critics said Marman, who is black, was targeted because of his race, particularly after photos emerged of a white man dressed in woman's lingerie who was allowed to board a U.S. Airways flight days before.

[Backwards Masking]

Originally Posted by milkman

You really are one stipud mother****er.

Why? I've already stated I've never understood the baggy shorts look, much less worn them. I just don't think peolple should be getting kicked off of planes and refused service for sporting them. And any 33 year old that thinks men should have their shirts tucked in at all times to the point where he rants about it on the interweb is probably pretty boring. Can't imagine he knows much how to party.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Backwards Masking

Why? I've already stated I've never understood the baggy shorts look, much less worn them. I just don't think peolple should be getting kicked off of planes and refused service for sporting them. And any 33 year old that thinks men should have their shirts tucked in at all times to the point where he rants about it on the interweb is probably pretty boring. Can't imagine he knows much how to party.

You're a stupid mother****er because you apparently think that saul was saying that he, specifically, is the target demographic.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Backwards Masking

Why? I've already stated I've never understood the baggy shorts look, much less worn them. I just don't think peolple should be getting kicked off of planes and refused service for sporting them. And any 33 year old that thinks men should have their shirts tucked in at all times to the point where he rants about it on the interweb is probably pretty boring. Can't imagine he knows much how to party.

When you can't win the argument, create a straw man. Nice work.

He didn't get kicked off for having his pants down. He could have pulled them up, and everyone would have been on their way. He got kicked off for cussing at a flight attendant and not complying with the company's rules. This isn't that complicated.

[007]

these are the some of the same people that don't understand why they can't find a job when dressed like an idiot.

[Backwards Masking]

Originally Posted by KurtCobain

Not the same thing though. Metallica is Metallica, and Greenday is Greenday, think about what you're posting.

They're both rock American rock bands, ones just more metal, ones more pop punk. RnR has the same attitude through most genres, it stands for rebellion, independence, giving the man the finger and never growing up. Or at least it's supposed to. GD still has many millions of fans that go along with that line of thinking, maybe not as many at metcallica, but still a whole damn lot. like i said before, if 100 of them see this article and fly elsewhere, thats 20k lost to SW.

[Backwards Masking]

Originally Posted by milkman

You're a stupid mother****er because you apparently think that saul was saying that he, specifically, is the target demographic.

touche, ill get you that, my sarcasm meter was off. 33's not terribly old though, not majorly far away from the demographic, like 50-60.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

I disagree. They didn't want this to turn into a big deal. There was a similar incident with a woman whose skirt was too short a year or two ago.

http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/200...rt_to_fly.html

First off, I am always disappointed whenever some petty functionary worries himself over some minor dress issue when there are bigger threats to the security of this country. One would think that airline officials should be troubling themselves over the threat of Islamic terror instead of acting like Islamic terrorists who think scantily clad women are like sizzling steaks.

Here's the story:

Pantagraph,
Airline tells woman skirt too short to fly

SAN DIEGO -- A 23-year-old woman who boarded a Southwest Airlines plane in a short skirt for a flight to Arizona says she was led off the plane for wearing an outfit that was considered too skimpy.

Kyla Ebbert said a Southwest employee asked her to leave her seat while the plane was preparing to leave San Diego's Lindbergh Field on July 3.

Ebbert, a student who was headed to Tucson for a doctor's appointment, said Friday on NBC's "Today" show that the employee told her she would have to catch a later flight.

"You're dressed inappropriately. This is a family airline. You're too provocative to fly on this plane," she quoted the employee as saying.

"I said, 'What part is it? The shirt? The skirt? Which part?' And he said the whole thing."

Ebbert was eventually allowed back on the plane after offering to adjust her sweater but said she was humiliated and embarrassed.

We will agree to disagree. I think they realized this crew ****ed up just like the crew that ****ed up with the lady.

SW doesn't have a dress code so this really comes down to individuals deciding for themselves what they deem appropriate or not.

And here’s the kicker: On the return flight, she not only wore the same outfit and encountered no trouble whatsoever from the Tucson-to-San Diego crew, but she told Lauer that one flight attendant actually complimented her.

Ebbert said she found out later from a reporter that Southwest did not have a specific dress code. (That was reported by the San Diego Union-Tribune, who quoted a company spokesperson as saying a passenger could conceivably wear a bikini top as long as all the proper spots are covered.)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20641687.../#.TmJ6SF35N9s

[007]

Originally Posted by Backwards Masking

They're both rock American rock bands, ones just more metal, ones more pop punk. RnR has the same attitude through most genres, it stands for rebellion, independence, giving the man the finger and never growing up. Or at least it's supposed to. GD still has many millions of fans that go along with that line of thinking, maybe not as many at metcallica, but still a whole damn lot. like i said before, if 100 of them see this article and fly elsewhere, thats 20k lost to SW.

SW won't lose a single dime over this. Hell, they might even get customers they didn't before because of it.

[Backwards Masking]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

When you can't win the argument, create a straw man. Nice work.

He didn't get kicked off for having his pants down. He could have pulled them up, and everyone would have been on their way. He got kicked off for cussing at a flight attendant and not complying with the company's rules. This isn't that complicated.

he didnt want to pull them up, he still would have gotten kicked off without cussing at the flight attendant. not pulling them up is not complying with the company's rules, you didn't need to separate them.

[Backwards Masking]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

We will agree to disagree. I think they realized this crew ****ed up just like the crew that ****ed up with the lady.

SW doesn't have a dress code so this really comes down to individuals deciding for themselves what they deem appropriate or not.





http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20641687.../#.TmJ6SF35N9s

Yep. SW was clearly in the wrong, and admitted they were. Argument over.

[Backwards Masking]

Originally Posted by Guru

SW won't lose a single dime over this. Hell, they might even get customers they didn't before because of it.

you dont know that the former, though the latter, i admit, IS possible.

[007]

Originally Posted by Backwards Masking

you dont know that the former, though the latter, i admit, IS possible.

No, I don't know that but it is my opinion so I don't have to know it

[Spott]

Originally Posted by Backwards Masking

Yep. SW was clearly in the wrong, and admitted they were. Argument over.

That apology was only made because the guy was famous. If it was the typical idiot/thug that walks around holding his pants up with one hand because he's too stupid to figure out how a belt works, SW would have said nothing.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Backwards Masking

Yep. SW was clearly in the wrong, and admitted they were. Argument over.

Show me where they admitted it.

[Backwards Masking]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Show me where they admitted it.

"As soon as we became aware of what had happened, we reached out to apologize for this customer's experience," said Brad Hawkins, a Southwest spokesman. "He elected to take the next flight. We followed up with this customer and involved employees to get more details and, in our latest conversations, understand from the customer the situation was resolved to his satisfaction."