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Old 10-04-2011, 07:29 AM  
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How do you feel now about Sanchez and Freeman at QB?
Suppose the Chiefs would have drafted either of these guys instead of aquiring Cassel. Would they have a better record right now? Are Sanchez or Freeman truly the type of "transcendent" QB talent to will a team to victory? They are probably better than Cassel, but "how much" better?
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:26 PM   #136
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Is that why he's ranked 16th in total QBR? Because he's a top QB?
Yeah that's why at this stage of his career with the offense he has around him and being ranked 16th overall he's a "top qb".

If you can't see the upside in the kid I don't know what to tell you, maybe youy haven't watched him.
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:26 PM   #137
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I'd take Rivers over Freeman over and over and over and over again. What exactly has Freeman done so far to warrant taking him over Rivers?
Nothing. Just hindsight leaving a bitter taste in everyone's mouth.
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:27 PM   #138
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Yeah that's why at this stage of his career with the offense he has around him and being ranked 16th overall he's a "top qb".

If you can't see the upside in the kid I don't know what to tell you, maybe youy haven't watched him.
"Upside"

That is all.

Get back to me when that "Upside" becomes something.

Kid was awful in 2009 and had one good year in 2010. This year he's putting up numbers similar to 2009 so far.
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:28 PM   #139
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I am extremely happy that your franchise QB is Cassel and that my team's franchise QB is Josh Freeman and **** Mark Sanchez.
Yeah well you're never gonna win a Super Bowl with Freeman the same way we aren't gonna win a Super Bowl with Cassel. So be extremely happy with that.
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:28 PM   #140
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The other QBs in the league didn't compare to them at that time, either.

I'd put the top 5 or 6 of now up against those guys any day.
Yea, there actually probably better overall talent in the league now at QB than there was then.


He couldn't be more wrong.

And it's sad with all the QB talent around we have Cassel.

DeBerg, Krieg, Super Joe at the end of his rope, Bono, Grbac, Trent Green, then a steaming pile of Huard, Thigpen, Croyle and Cassel.

**** me.

Look at this mess.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...s_quarterbacks
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:29 PM   #141
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I'd take Rivers over Freeman over and over and over and over again. What exactly has Freeman done so far to warrant taking him over Rivers?
What the hell has Rivers done with everything he's had around him?

Like I said I don't deny Rivers ability, I just like Freemans upside and if you haven't noticed he's an absolute beast.
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:30 PM   #142
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Yea, there actually probably better overall talent in the league now at QB than there was then.


He couldn't be more wrong.

And it's sad with all the QB talent around we have Cassel.

DeBerg, Krieg, Super Joe at the end of his rope, Bono, Grbac, Trent Green, then a steaming pile of Huard, Thigpen, Croyle and Cassel.

**** me.

Look at this mess.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...s_quarterbacks
Dont forget a broked*ck Warren Moon
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:31 PM   #143
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Freeman yes. I don't believe Sanchez is any better than Cassel.
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:32 PM   #144
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What the hell has Rivers done with everything he's had around him?

Like I said I don't deny Rivers ability, I just like Freemans upside and if you haven't noticed he's an absolute beast.
What did Rivers have around him last year when he threw 66% completion vs 61%, 4700 yards vs 3400 yards, 1.5 yards more on average, and 5 more TD's?

End your ignorance.
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"Upside"

That is all.

Get back to me when that "Upside" becomes something.

Kid was awful in 2009 and had one good year in 2010. This year he's putting up numbers similar to 2009 so far.
You do know that 2009 was his rookie season?
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You do know that 2009 was his rookie season?
You do know that this is his 3rd year right? And his numbers so far are eerily similar. The only thing that isn't is his completion %.
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What did Rivers have around him last year when he threw 66% completion vs 61%, 4700 yards vs 3400 yards, 1.5 yards more on average, and 5 more TD's?

End your ignorance.
He is most definately in the top 5 discussion and I still can't stand that ****er.

Thank God there is no chance he ever becomes a Chief because I would be in eternal inner turmoil watching him play as a Chief.

One of my most dislike players in the NFL. Call it what you will.
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:37 PM   #149
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What did Rivers have around him last year when he threw 66% completion vs 61%, 4700 yards vs 3400 yards, 1.5 yards more on average, and 5 more TD's?

End your ignorance.
Didn't the Chiefs beat Rivers Chargers in the opening Game last year because of in no small part Rivers wheels coming off fior the same resons I cited earlier?

How did Rivers and his 4700 yards fair in the weak ass afcw?
Just stay down bitch.
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He is most definately in the top 5 discussion and I still can't stand that ****er.

Thank God there is no chance he ever becomes a Chief because I would be in eternal inner turmoil watching him play as a Chief.

One of my most dislike players in the NFL. Call it what you will.
Ya. I just find it funny someone is trying to compare a 3 year player with one good year under his belt to a guy who is constantly throwing for 65%+, 4000+ yards and around 30 TD's.
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