Chiefs Race for the #1 pick - Page 26

Hammock Parties · 02:01 AM

We're losing ground.

Colts: 0-4
Vikings: 0-4
Dolphins: 0-4
Rams: 0-4
Chiefs: 1-3
Jaguars: 1-3
Broncos: 1-3
Eagles: 1-3
Panters: 1-3
Seahawks: 1-3
Cardinals: 1-3

Important games the Chiefs need to lose:

ALL OF THEM

Ugly Duck · 10-04-2011, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

I'm not quitting on Bradford.

Bradford & Luck wouldn't be such a bad QB combo to have. A team could get by pretty well with that as the QB stable. Luck would be cheap to keep as a backup given the new rookie scale. Heck - if Luck looked really good, Bradford could back up instead.

Frankie · 10-04-2011, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

Bradford & Luck wouldn't be such a bad QB combo to have. A team could get by pretty well with that as the QB stable. Luck would be cheap to keep as a backup given the new rookie scale. Heck - if Luck looked really good, Bradford could back up instead.

This does not make sense. If you have already used the first pick of the draft on a QB two years back you do not do it again with the idea of keeping both.

Ugly Duck · 10-04-2011, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

This does not make sense. If you have already used the first pick of the draft on a QB two years back you do not do it again with the idea of keeping both.

If you have the opportunity to get Luck cheap, you do it. Let the rest settle out later. They can always trade Bradford to whoever needs a QB - like KC or Denver. How much would KC give up for Bradford?

jd1020 · 10-04-2011, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

If you have the opportunity to get Luck cheap, you do it. Let the rest settle out later. They can always trade Bradford to whoever needs a QB - like KC or Denver. How much would KC give up for Bradford?

I'd rather take my chances with Jones/Barkley than Bradford. The guy was 29/33 QBR last season and is 29/32 QBR this season. Broncos can have him.

Nightfyre · 10-04-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

Official after week 4. The adjustments of team strength based on week 4 games really shook things up. KC definitely needs more suck.

St Louis 17.5%
Seattle 17%
Minnesota 15%
Miami 14.5%
Indianapolis 10%
KC 9%
Atlanta 4%
Field 13%

Can you project how that might change based on next weeks KC/Indy game?

Marcellus · 10-04-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

Bradford & Luck wouldn't be such a bad QB combo to have. A team could get by pretty well with that as the QB stable. Luck would be cheap to keep as a backup given the new rookie scale. Heck - if Luck looked really good, Bradford could back up instead.

No ****ing way Stl takes Luck unless it is to trade.

They already gave $50MM to Bradford and Luck will still pull $30MM guaranteed.

Bradford will be fine and they know it.

The picks they might get trading the #1 would go a long way for that team.

You draft Luck and have 2QB's they don't help the team for the near future at all.

Asinine.

Chiefs Pantalones · 10-04-2011, 07:51 PM

IMO, the only team that wouldn't take Luck is the Rams. ANY other team will take him, no matter their status at QB.

jd1020 · 10-04-2011, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

No ****ing way Stl takes Luck unless it is to trade.

They already gave $50MM to Bradford and Luck will still pull $30MM guaranteed.

Bradford will be fine and they know it.

The picks they might get trading the #1 would go a long way for that team.

You draft Luck and have 2QB's they don't help the team for the near future at all.

Asinine.

I would imagine the Rams could get some decent offers for Bradford aswell. That would be a tough spot if the Rams get the #1 pick. Do they try and trade the pick and if they don't get near what they want do they put Bradford on the market and draft Luck? I find it hard to believe with how much value that pick is worth that they ignore both routes and grab a WR or something.

Nightfyre · 10-04-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

IMO, the only team that wouldn't take Luck is the Rams. ANY other team will take him, no matter their status at QB.

I also think it is safe to infer that we are also not going to be the highest bidder for the top pick. Ergo, we must hope for losses if we want Luck.

Nightfyre · 10-04-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I would imagine the Rams could get some decent offers for Bradford aswell. That would be a tough spot if the Rams get the #1 pick. Do they try and trade the pick and if they don't get near what they want do they put Bradford on the market and draft Luck?

It would be Cap suicide to trade Bradford.

**cdcox** · 10-04-2011, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Can you project how that might change based on next weeks KC/Indy game?

Holding everything else constant, if we win our odds drop to 3% and if we lose our odds increase to 12%.

Nightfyre · 10-04-2011, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

Holding everything else constant, if we win our odds drop to 3% and if we lose our odds increase to 12%.

amazing and timely. Mr. cdcox, you are a treasure.

jd1020 · 10-04-2011, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

It would be Cap suicide to trade Bradford.

Huh? It would be cap suicide to keep both.

Nightfyre · 10-04-2011, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Huh? It would be cap suicide to keep both.

You can trade rights to Luck. StL will never put Luck under contract if they draft him.

Marcellus · 10-04-2011, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I would imagine the Rams could get some decent offers for Bradford aswell. That would be a tough spot if the Rams get the #1 pick. Do they try and trade the pick and if they don't get near what they want do they put Bradford on the market and draft Luck?

No for 2 reasons.

They already gave Bradford about $30MM up front plus 2 years salary.

Bradford is a known albeit still a work in progress. Luck for all his hype is still an unknown on the NFL level.

They would still end up giving Luck big bank, not like Bradford but a new $30MM contract or so.

For what they have already given Bradford I bet keeping him would be cheaper by far over the rest of his existing contract and you have someone who has 2 years under his belt.

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