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Old 10-05-2011, 01:22 AM  
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Old 10-05-2011, 08:10 AM   #106
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Old 10-05-2011, 08:10 AM   #107
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That corner is deeper that the corner on McCluster's side.

And anyone that watches that play and thinks that Cassel is reading the defense is a ****ing moron.
never said cassel read the defense.

just said that a pass to mcclain has the probability of ending up just like the pass to mccluster, read back through my posts.
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Old 10-05-2011, 08:11 AM   #108
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You can't be this dumb. In your clip he starts off looking at Pope. You can even see the LLB (right on the screen) try to read Cassel's eyes and he makes a move toward Pope.
Not to be argumentative or anything, Mr. Chiefnj2, but you have to imagine this happening in "real time". To me, at least, it doesn't appear that Cassel is "reading" anything at all. Pope is in the middle of the field (where Cassel's head is turned), but he isn't "reading" that.

My guess is that, in this play, it's Cassel's job to try and "look off" the defense, then throw the rock to McCluster in the flat. Anything more than that and I think we're "reading" more into this than is actually there.

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That corner is deeper that the corner on McCluster's side.
true but clay also said that there wasnt a cb on that side of the field.
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What's Sauto's thought process here?

Cassel made a bad decision?

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Old 10-05-2011, 08:12 AM   #111
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Not to be argumentative or anything, Mr. Chiefnj2, but you have to imagine this happening in "real time". To me, at least, it doesn't appear that Cassel is "reading" anything at all. Pope is in the middle of the field (where Cassel's head is turned), but he isn't "reading" that.

My guess is that, in this play, it's Cassel's job to try and "look off" the defense, then throw the rock to McCluster in the flat. Anything more than that and I think we're "reading" more into this than is actually there.

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I see him look straight ahead when the clip starts. Pope is sitting straight in front of him. I see a small hop in his footwork where he turns slightly to the right (in the direction where it appears Bowe has run) then he turns and passes to Dex.
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Not to be argumentative or anything, Mr. Chiefnj2, but you have to imagine this happening in "real time". To me, at least, it doesn't appear that Cassel is "reading" anything at all. Pope is in the middle of the field (where Cassel's head is turned), but he isn't "reading" that.

My guess is that, in this play, it's Cassel's job to try and "look off" the defense, then throw the rock to McCluster in the flat. Anything more than that and I think we're "reading" more into this than is actually there.

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i agree with this, he tried to look off the d. thats all.

that ball wasnt going anywhere else. but a pass to mcclain probably ends up the same.


thats my whole argument.
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What's Sauto's thought process here?

Cassel made a bad decision?

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i have explained it multiple times.

i dont like cassel anymore than most here at this point.

but lets bash him for actual reasons, not some made up shit.

the play was designed to go to mccluster.

a pass to mcclain in a probability doesnt do anything different.

a no gain play.
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Old 10-05-2011, 08:14 AM   #114
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why is there a better chance that mcclain would make a play to make a lb miss?

has he shown that ability this year so far?
Becasue the corner on McCluster's side didn't follow the receiver on his route, while the corner on McClain's side did.

McCluster has to elude the corner, while still finding space to run before away from the LB who is right there.

McClain would have only had to elude (or run over) the backer and had time to set up the corner, who was not as close to the play as the LB on the other side.
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I see him look straight ahead when the clip starts. Pope is sitting straight in front of him. I see a small hop in his footwork where he turns slightly to the right (in the direction where it appears Bowe has run) then he turns and passes to Dex.
I see all that, too.

This, I think, is where bias creeps into the discussion. To me (as I said), this looks like a deal where Cassel is supposed to "look off" the enemy D, then throw to McCluster. Designed play. First option.

I don't think he's going through "reads" here. I don't think he has the time, frankly.

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never said cassel read the defense.

just said that a pass to mcclain has the probability of ending up just like the pass to mccluster, read back through my posts.
That second sentence in my post was directed to nj.
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Becasue the corner on McCluster's side didn't follow the receiver on his route, while the corner on McClain's side did.

McCluster has to elude the corner, while still finding space to run before away from the LB who is right there.

McClain would have only had to elude (or run over) the backer and had time to set up the corner, who was not as close to the play as the LB on the other side.
so you are bettig on mcclain making a lb miss or just running over him over mccluster making a cb miss?

seems like even odds to me.


neither have shown that ability to this point this season
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That second sentence in my post was directed to nj.
i know, i was just trying to explain my "thought process" lol
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