I'm going to go ahead and call it...

[rocknrolla]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I am about as big of a "cassel-hater" as you can find, but I still can't answer that. I don't have enough information. The head coach might. Hell, he might even agree with you but be unable to pull Cassel due to pressure from Pioli.

I know Pioli thought Cassel was the answer for this team when he traded for him. But god damn he sees the same games we do plus a lot more of his bullshit at practice and on tape. He has to have figured it out by now he is not the answer. I just hope he can do some magic this off season. Remember when we traded for him, how bad McDanials wanted him.So they both saw something in NE they liked. I don't know what. We sure as shit haven't seen it here. I don't know if Stanzi is quite NFL ready. But I sure would like to see his ass at least activated for games. I was somewhat impressed with him in preseason. Who the fuck knows.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by rocknrolla

I know Pioli thought Cassel was the answer for this team when he traded for him. But god damn he sees the same games we do plus a lot more of his bullshit at practice and on tape. He has to have figured it out by now he is not the answer. I just hope he can do some magic this off season. Remember when we traded for him, how bad McDanials wanted him.So they both saw something in NE they liked. I don't know what. We sure as shit haven't seen it here. I don't know if Stanzi is quite NFL ready. But I sure would like to see his ass at least activated for games. I was somewhat impressed with him in preseason. Who the fuck knows.

I am convinced Cassel in practice looks like an ace, but can't hold up in the tempo and pressure of a game.

[rocknrolla]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I am convinced Cassel in practice looks like an ace, but can't hold up in the tempo and pressure of a game.

This is true. But he has to see the tape over and over of how he can't handle it. Everyone says it's his ego with Cassel. Bullshit. He wants to win. This is his first GM job and wants to hold on to it. I have faith in him. For now.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by rocknrolla

This is true. But he has to see the tape over and over of how he can't handle it. Everyone says it's his ego with Cassel. Bullshit. He wants to win. This is his first GM job and wants to hold on to it. I have faith in him. For now.

Oh I agree with you. I suspect Cassel was either a stop-gap OR a "stab-at-a-franchise-qb" which got turned into a stop-gap. He probably hadn't found another QB which he thought was franchise QB material. Frankly, he was probably right.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Oh I agree with you. I suspect Cassel was either a stop-gap OR a "stab-at-a-franchise-qb" which got turned into a stop-gap. He probably hadn't found another QB which he thought was franchise QB material. Frankly, he was probably right.

I can see this.

People repeatedly bitch and moan about the Cassel trade etc....but fail realize there has been no definite franchise prospect the Chief's could have picked up in the draft or FA at the time or since.

Freeman is the only possible franchise QB that was realistically possible and not one person here thought he was going to be a franchise QB.

The true major screw ups were made by Carl passing on Brees & Rodgers.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

People repeatedly bitch and moan about the Cassel trade etc....but fail realize there has been no definite franchise prospect the Chief's could have picked up in the draft or FA at the time or since.
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We'd still be better off with Sanchez waiting in the wings than Tyson Jackson.

Colt McCoy would look real attractive right now waiting in the wings.

Ryan Fitzpatrick was a free agent who was signed two weeks after Scott Pioli took the Chiefs job.

Even if we had traded for Cassel, Our QB situation would look a lot better right now if we had:

A)Not signed him to a long-term deal

B)Brought in legitimate competition for the job

C)Signed him to a reasonable deal after 2009 (you can't just kick him to the curb immediately)and made him compete for his job with guys who are younger, have a lot more potential and have yet to hit their ceiling.

Or we could have just drafted Freeman and never been in this mess to begin with.

So yes, we should be bitching and moaning about this trade, not only because it was horrible, but because there was absolutely zero plan B.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Gif Horse

We'd still be better off with Sanchez waiting in the wings than Tyson Jackson.

Colt McCoy would look real attractive right now waiting in the wings.

Ryan Fitzpatrick was a free agent who was signed two weeks after Scott Pioli took the Chiefs job.

Even if we had traded for Cassel, Our QB situation would look a lot better right now if we had:

A)Not signed him to a long-term deal

B)Brought in legitimate competition for the job

C)Signed him to a reasonable deal after 2009 (you can't just kick him to the curb immediately)and made him compete for his job with guys who are younger, have a lot more potential and have yet to hit their ceiling.

Or we could have just drafted Freeman and never been in this mess to begin with.

So yes, we should be bitching and moaning about this trade, not only because it was horrible, but because there was absolutely zero plan B.

Lol. You said Colt McCoy. And before that you said Sanchez. Lol. And you Fitzpatrick. Lol. You're silly.

[DBOSHO]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I am convinced Cassel in practice looks like an ace, but can't hold up in the tempo and pressure of a game.

Cassel is the anti-tebow. Good in practice, bad in games.

So basically, hes the anti-christ.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by DBOSHO

Cassel is the anti-tebow. Good in practice, bad in games.

So basically, hes the anti-christ.