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Stewie · 11-05-2011, 12:43 PM

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (AP) — A former defensive coordinator who was integral for decades to Penn State's success in football was accused Saturday of sexually abusing eight boys, and the school's athletic director and an administrator were charged with perjury and failing to report what they knew about the allegations in a case that prosecutor said uncovered a years-long trail of a predator and those who protected him.

Former coach Jerry Sandusky, 67, of State College, was arrested Saturday and released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts, the state attorney general's office said. Athletic director Tim Curley, 57, and Penn State vice president for finance and business Gary Schultz, 62, both of Boalsburg, were expected to turn themselves in Monday in Harrisburg. Schultz's position includes oversight of the university's police department.

Longtime head coach Joe Paterno, who has more victories than any coach in the history of Division I football, was not charged, authorities said, and the grand jury report did not appear to implicate him in wrongdoing.

When Paterno first learned of one report of abuse he immediately reported it to Curley, prosecutors said. Sandusky was no longer coaching at the time and it's not clear whether Paterno followed up with Curley.

Closely identified with the school's reputation as a defensive powerhouse and a program that produced top-quality linebackers, Sandusky retired in 1999 but continued to work with at-risk children through the nonprofit Second Mile organization he founded in 1977. He was charged with multiple counts of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, corruption of minors, endangering the welfare of a child, indecent assault and unlawful contact with a minor, as well as single counts of aggravated indecent assault and attempted indecent assault. A preliminary hearing for Sandusky is scheduled for Wednesday, but his lawyer told reporters it would likely be delayed.

"He's shaky, as you can expect," defense attorney Joe Amendola told WJAC-TV outside the arraignment hearing. "Being 67 years old, never having faced criminal charges in his life, and having the distinguished career that he's had, these are very serious allegations."

Amendola said Sandusky has been aware of the allegations for about three years and has maintained his innocence.

The allegations range from sexual touching to oral and anal sex, and victims testified they were in their early teens when some of the abuse occurred.

Attorney General Linda Kelly called Sandusky "a sexual predator who used his position within the university and community to repeatedly prey on young boys."

The grand jury said eight boys who were targets of sexual advances or assaults by Sandusky from 1994 to 2009. None were named, and in at least one case, the jury said the child's identity remains unknown to authorities.

One accuser, now 27, testified that Sandusky initiated contact with a "soap battle" in the shower that led to multiple instances of involuntary sexual intercourse and indecent assault at Sandusky's hands, the grand jury report said.

Victim 4, as he was identified in the jury report, said he traveled to charity functions and Penn State games with Sandusky, even being listed as a member of Sandusky's family's party for the 1998 Outback Bowl and 1999 Alamo Bowl.

"Sandusky did threaten to send him home from the Alamo Bowl in Texas when Victim 4 resisted his advances," the report said, and Sandusky gave him clothes, shoes, a snowboard, golf clubs, hockey gear and football jerseys.

"Sandusky even guaranteed Victim 4 that he could be a walk-on player at Penn State," and the boy appeared with Sandusky in a photo in Sports Illustrated, the jury said. He testified that Sandusky once gave him $50 to buy marijuana, drove him to purchase it, and then drove him home as the boy smoked the drug, according to the report.

"This was when Victim 4 was trying to distance himself from Sandusky because he wanted no more sexual contact with him," the jurors said.
Another child, Victim 8, as jurors named him, is known only as a boy, about 11 to 13, who was seen pinned against a wall, by a janitor who observed Sandusky performing oral sex on him in fall 2000, the jury said.
No one answered a knock at the door Saturday at Sandusky's modest, two-story brick home at the end of a dead-end road in State College.

As stunning as the charges were the names implicated at a school where the football program is known for its consistency as much as its success — a big change this year was the removal of white trim from players' uniforms.

The report accuses Curley and Schultz of knowing some details of accusations of sex abuse against Sandusky but failing to tell authorities what they knew.

"It is also a case about high-ranking university officials who allegedly failed to report the sexual assault of a young boy after the information was brought to their attention, and later made false statements to a grand jury," Kelly said.

Lawyers for both men issued statements saying they were innocent of all charges.

Prosecutors said all of the young men first encountered Sandusky through Second Mile.

The first to come to light was a boy who met Sandusky when he was 11 or 12, the grand jury said. The boy received expensive gifts and trips to sports events from Sandusky, and physical contact began during his overnight stays at Sandusky's home, jurors said. Eventually, the boy's mother reported the allegations of sexual assault to his high school, and Sandusky was banned from the child's school district in Clinton County in 2009. That triggered the state investigation that culminated in charges Saturday.

The report alleges much earlier instances of abuse, and efforts by some who knew of it to stop it, to no avail.

Kelly said that in 2002, a graduate assistant saw Sandusky sexually assault a naked boy, estimated to be about 10 years old, in the locker room of the Lasch Football Building on campus. The grad student and his father reported what he saw to Paterno, who immediately told Curley, prosecutors said.

Curley and Schultz met with the graduate assistant about a week and a half later, Kelly said. Nothing happened.

"Despite a powerful eyewitness statement about the sexual assault of a child, this incident was not reported to any law enforcement or child protective agency, as required by Pennsylvania law," Kelly said.

There's no indication that anyone at school attempted to find the boy, or follow up with the witness, she said.

Curley denied that the assistant had reported anything of a sexual nature, calling it "merely 'horsing around,'" the 23-page grand jury report said.
But the jury said Curley was lying, Kelly said, adding that it also deemed portions of Schultz's testimony not to be credible.

Curley testified that he barred Sandusky from bringing children onto campus and that he advised Penn State president Graham Spanier of the matter.

Schultz told the jurors he also knew of a 1998 investigation involving sexually inappropriate behavior by Sandusky with a boy in the showers the football team used. But despite his job overseeing campus police, he never reported the 2002 allegations to any authorities, "never sought or received a police report on the 1998 incident and never attempted to learn the identity of the child in the show in 2002," the jurors wrote.

"No one from the university did so."

Spanier released a statement calling the allegations against Sandusky "troubling" and adding Curley and Schultz had his unconditional support.
He predicted they will be exonerated.

"I have known and worked daily with Tim and Gary for more than 16 years," he said. "I have complete confidence in how they handled the allegations about a former university employee."

Sandusky, once considered a potential successor to Paterno, drew up the defenses for the Nittany Lions' national-title teams in 1982 and 1986. The team is enjoying another successful run this season; at 8-1, Penn State is ranked No. 16 in the AP Top 25 and is the last undefeated squad in Big Ten play. The Nittany Lions were off Saturday.

vailpass · 11-07-2011, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam

Im not Catholic. But just the same
SHUT THE **** UP DAVE WITH YOUR ATHEIST BULL SHIT. IT GETS OLD.
Your gonna shoot your mouth off to the wrong peep someday & your gonna find out if god is real or not
& further more DAVE, how do you know that Sandusky isnt an Atheist like you?
I cant see Sandusky believing in the teachings of the Bible after this

X10.
Loon that dent in your head makes you act like one weird son of a bitch. Like Otter said, confront the buggery you suffered in your past and deal with it.
Are you mad that you were man-****ed, or just mad that he never called back?

FAX · 11-07-2011, 11:03 AM

I'm confused. What does this have to do with religious beliefs? I must have missed something.

It's far more likely that the Illuminati hired the Freemasons to recruit this guy.

FAX

Pants · 11-07-2011, 11:24 AM

Remove penis and testicles and throw in prison for the rest of his life.

Swanman · 11-07-2011, 11:46 AM

Joe Pa has been a joke for the last several years, but this year is especially bad, with him sitting up in the booth just looking grumpy and not even wearing a headset. Hopefully this scandal puts that whole charade to rest for good.

**Lzen** · 11-07-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

The official JoePa version is that the only thing he ever knew about any of this was when a graduate assistant (Mike McQueary, former Penn State QB, current WR coach) came to him in 2002 and told him he saw "something inappropriate" between Sandusky and a young boy in the showers.

The "something inappropriate", according to McQueary, was Sandusky having sex with the boy. But JoePa denies that McQueary told him he saw Sandusky having sex with a child.

Sandusky had been investigated by PSU campus police in 1998 for similar actions, but JoePa claims to have no knowledge of that investigation. A backup safety can't get a handjob in Happy Valley without JoePa hearing about it, but his defensive coordinator and 30-year assistant gets investigated for kiddy fiddling by the university's own police and nobody mentions it to the head coach. And in a total coincidence, Sandusky happened to step down the season after the investigation. That all sounds plausible.

But JoePa has to deny knowing about the prior investigation, because if he had some inkling of what Sandusky was up to, then the handling of the 2002 allegation looks practically criminal. And he has to deny that McQueary said he saw Sandusky having sex with a child, because if JoePa heard that, then the handling of the allegation again looks awful. To say nothing of the fact that Sandusky continued bringing kids around the program for years afterwards.

So basically, JoePa says he only knew of one claim, which he wasn't told the full, horrible extent of. And he told his higher-ups at the university and washed his hands of it.

But even that version, which spins him in the best possible light, still makes him look bad. The person who made the claim wasn't some guy, it was one of his former players and an assistant coach. And even a vague claim of inappropriateness between a grown man and a young boy on your campus, in your locker room, in your shower, should be enough to make someone's blood go cold.

But apparently it wasn't important enough to follow-up on.

This. I am having a hard time believing JoPa didn't know about this. And if he did and didn't say anything, then he's just as guilty, IMO.

FringeNC · 11-07-2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

The official JoePa version is that the only thing he ever knew about any of this was when a graduate assistant (Mike McQueary, former Penn State QB, current WR coach) came to him in 2002 and told him he saw "something inappropriate" between Sandusky and a young boy in the showers.

The "something inappropriate", according to McQueary, was Sandusky having sex with the boy. But JoePa denies that McQueary told him he saw Sandusky having sex with a child.

Sandusky had been investigated by PSU campus police in 1998 for similar actions, but JoePa claims to have no knowledge of that investigation. A backup safety can't get a handjob in Happy Valley without JoePa hearing about it, but his defensive coordinator and 30-year assistant gets investigated for kiddy fiddling by the university's own police and nobody mentions it to the head coach. And in a total coincidence, Sandusky happened to step down the season after the investigation. That all sounds plausible.

But JoePa has to deny knowing about the prior investigation, because if he had some inkling of what Sandusky was up to, then the handling of the 2002 allegation looks practically criminal. And he has to deny that McQueary said he saw Sandusky having sex with a child, because if JoePa heard that, then the handling of the allegation again looks awful. To say nothing of the fact that Sandusky continued bringing kids around the program for years afterwards.

So basically, JoePa says he only knew of one claim, which he wasn't told the full, horrible extent of. And he told his higher-ups at the university and washed his hands of it.

But even that version, which spins him in the best possible light, still makes him look bad. The person who made the claim wasn't some guy, it was one of his former players and an assistant coach. And even a vague claim of inappropriateness between a grown man and a young boy on your campus, in your locker room, in your shower, should be enough to make someone's blood go cold.

But apparently it wasn't important enough to follow-up on.

Nice summary. Seems consistent with my readings of events.

lcarus · 11-07-2011, 12:19 PM

So this Sandusky guy used a "bubble fight" to further his sexual advancement in the shower? Michael Jackson could learn a thing or two from this guy...

eazyb81 · 11-07-2011, 12:23 PM

No one has brought up the elephant in the room yet:

Sandusky and his wife have 6 adopted children and served as foster parents to countless others.

I bet we haven't even hit the tip of the iceberg on allegations yet.

**the Talking Can** · 11-07-2011, 12:30 PM

so posnanski has been working on a bio of Paterno...his take:

http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/11/0...ess/#more-8508

"A few months ago, I began working on a book about Penn State coach Joe Paterno. I have spent the last few months living in State College, Pa. Paterno gave me permission to write the book, but plays no editorial role in it....

...On Saturday, I read what might be the most haunting and sickening 23 pages of my life — the grand jury findings in the case of Jerry Sandusky, the once legendary defensive coordinator of Penn State University. "

FringeNC · 11-07-2011, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

No one has brought up the elephant in the room yet:

Sandusky and his wife have 6 adopted children and served as foster parents to countless others.

I bet we haven't even hit the tip of the iceberg on allegations yet.

This story doesn't seem so feel-good anymore:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...7979/index.htm

vailpass · 11-07-2011, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

so posnanski has been working on a bio of Paterno...his take:

http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/11/0...ess/#more-8508

"A few months ago, I began working on a book about Penn State coach Joe Paterno. I have spent the last few months living in State College, Pa. Paterno gave me permission to write the book, but plays no editorial role in it....

...On Saturday, I read what might be the most haunting and sickening 23 pages of my life — the grand jury findings in the case of Jerry Sandusky, the once legendary defensive coordinator of Penn State University. "

Good read, thanks for the link. I can't decide whether Pos is extremely fortunate or unfortunate to be in State College immersed in a Paterno study when all this broke.

Pants · 11-07-2011, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

This story doesn't seem so feel-good anymore:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...7979/index.htm

Ugh.

jspchief · 11-07-2011, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

No one has brought up the elephant in the room yet:

Sandusky and his wife have 6 adopted children and served as foster parents to countless others.

I bet we haven't even hit the tip of the iceberg on allegations yet.

I already mentioned him using his youth at risk program as a supply line. It's been on TV too.

lcarus · 11-07-2011, 12:45 PM

This is absolutely unbelievable. Is there any way Paterno is totally innocent in all this? I've always been fond of him sort of. Not anymore...not if he turned his back on this...

Hootie · 11-07-2011, 12:57 PM

I'm willing to bet Paterno didn't know Sandusky was diddling dozens of children...I have a feeling Paterno should have done more, but I think it's a lot tougher to sell out a "friend" or at least a "coworker" than people think.

Of course, if Paterno knew that he was having sex with dozens of children it is inexcusable. But how do we know if he knew? He reported what was told to him to his AD...was that enough? Probably not. But he did do something and as of now he's not facing any charges. So I don't think the focus of this story should be on him, yet (at least). But I know that's where the big news would be so that's all anyone is going to talk about.

It's hard to find a good comparison in my mind...if I saw my close friend punch his girlfriend in the face...I don't think I'd call the police and report an assault. I'd be disturbed, I'd probably say something to him like "come on man, you can never do that!" but it would put me in a very tough situation.

Does he hit all of his girlfriends? What else has he done? Perhaps it would make me rethink my decision to have him as a close friend...but I wouldn't immediately pick up the phone and dial 911 etc...

now I know child molestation is about the most grotesque thing in this world...so there's that...and if the G.A. flat out told JoePa that he witnessed Sandusky having anal sex with a 10 year old boy and JoePa turned a blind eye for years after...then there's that...

but from what I've heard now this same G.A. is now a WR coach who would still be right there on that same campus Sandusky still roams around...

so???

I don't know.

I don't think Joe Paterno is the guy everyone should be worried about...perhaps, indirectly, he was an enabler but I highly doubt he was telling Sandusky to "make sure and lock up and clean up after himself" or anything like that...

Either way...I realize the big story is with JoePa and everyone likes big stories...but I think it's really unfair to pin another man's sick crimes on Joe Paterno.

11-05-2011, 12:43 PM
Stewie MVP Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West of the Equator Casino cash: $-1860099	Penn St ex-coach, others charged in child sex case STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (AP) — A former defensive coordinator who was integral for decades to Penn State's success in football was accused Saturday of sexually abusing eight boys, and the school's athletic director and an administrator were charged with perjury and failing to report what they knew about the allegations in a case that prosecutor said uncovered a years-long trail of a predator and those who protected him. Former coach Jerry Sandusky, 67, of State College, was arrested Saturday and released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts, the state attorney general's office said. Athletic director Tim Curley, 57, and Penn State vice president for finance and business Gary Schultz, 62, both of Boalsburg, were expected to turn themselves in Monday in Harrisburg. Schultz's position includes oversight of the university's police department. Longtime head coach Joe Paterno, who has more victories than any coach in the history of Division I football, was not charged, authorities said, and the grand jury report did not appear to implicate him in wrongdoing. When Paterno first learned of one report of abuse he immediately reported it to Curley, prosecutors said. Sandusky was no longer coaching at the time and it's not clear whether Paterno followed up with Curley. Closely identified with the school's reputation as a defensive powerhouse and a program that produced top-quality linebackers, Sandusky retired in 1999 but continued to work with at-risk children through the nonprofit Second Mile organization he founded in 1977. He was charged with multiple counts of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, corruption of minors, endangering the welfare of a child, indecent assault and unlawful contact with a minor, as well as single counts of aggravated indecent assault and attempted indecent assault. A preliminary hearing for Sandusky is scheduled for Wednesday, but his lawyer told reporters it would likely be delayed. "He's shaky, as you can expect," defense attorney Joe Amendola told WJAC-TV outside the arraignment hearing. "Being 67 years old, never having faced criminal charges in his life, and having the distinguished career that he's had, these are very serious allegations." Amendola said Sandusky has been aware of the allegations for about three years and has maintained his innocence. The allegations range from sexual touching to oral and anal sex, and victims testified they were in their early teens when some of the abuse occurred. Attorney General Linda Kelly called Sandusky "a sexual predator who used his position within the university and community to repeatedly prey on young boys." The grand jury said eight boys who were targets of sexual advances or assaults by Sandusky from 1994 to 2009. None were named, and in at least one case, the jury said the child's identity remains unknown to authorities. One accuser, now 27, testified that Sandusky initiated contact with a "soap battle" in the shower that led to multiple instances of involuntary sexual intercourse and indecent assault at Sandusky's hands, the grand jury report said. Victim 4, as he was identified in the jury report, said he traveled to charity functions and Penn State games with Sandusky, even being listed as a member of Sandusky's family's party for the 1998 Outback Bowl and 1999 Alamo Bowl. "Sandusky did threaten to send him home from the Alamo Bowl in Texas when Victim 4 resisted his advances," the report said, and Sandusky gave him clothes, shoes, a snowboard, golf clubs, hockey gear and football jerseys. "Sandusky even guaranteed Victim 4 that he could be a walk-on player at Penn State," and the boy appeared with Sandusky in a photo in Sports Illustrated, the jury said. He testified that Sandusky once gave him $50 to buy marijuana, drove him to purchase it, and then drove him home as the boy smoked the drug, according to the report. "This was when Victim 4 was trying to distance himself from Sandusky because he wanted no more sexual contact with him," the jurors said. Another child, Victim 8, as jurors named him, is known only as a boy, about 11 to 13, who was seen pinned against a wall, by a janitor who observed Sandusky performing oral sex on him in fall 2000, the jury said. No one answered a knock at the door Saturday at Sandusky's modest, two-story brick home at the end of a dead-end road in State College. As stunning as the charges were the names implicated at a school where the football program is known for its consistency as much as its success — a big change this year was the removal of white trim from players' uniforms. The report accuses Curley and Schultz of knowing some details of accusations of sex abuse against Sandusky but failing to tell authorities what they knew. "It is also a case about high-ranking university officials who allegedly failed to report the sexual assault of a young boy after the information was brought to their attention, and later made false statements to a grand jury," Kelly said. Lawyers for both men issued statements saying they were innocent of all charges. Prosecutors said all of the young men first encountered Sandusky through Second Mile. The first to come to light was a boy who met Sandusky when he was 11 or 12, the grand jury said. The boy received expensive gifts and trips to sports events from Sandusky, and physical contact began during his overnight stays at Sandusky's home, jurors said. Eventually, the boy's mother reported the allegations of sexual assault to his high school, and Sandusky was banned from the child's school district in Clinton County in 2009. That triggered the state investigation that culminated in charges Saturday. The report alleges much earlier instances of abuse, and efforts by some who knew of it to stop it, to no avail. Kelly said that in 2002, a graduate assistant saw Sandusky sexually assault a naked boy, estimated to be about 10 years old, in the locker room of the Lasch Football Building on campus. The grad student and his father reported what he saw to Paterno, who immediately told Curley, prosecutors said. Curley and Schultz met with the graduate assistant about a week and a half later, Kelly said. Nothing happened. "Despite a powerful eyewitness statement about the sexual assault of a child, this incident was not reported to any law enforcement or child protective agency, as required by Pennsylvania law," Kelly said. There's no indication that anyone at school attempted to find the boy, or follow up with the witness, she said. Curley denied that the assistant had reported anything of a sexual nature, calling it "merely 'horsing around,'" the 23-page grand jury report said. But the jury said Curley was lying, Kelly said, adding that it also deemed portions of Schultz's testimony not to be credible. Curley testified that he barred Sandusky from bringing children onto campus and that he advised Penn State president Graham Spanier of the matter. Schultz told the jurors he also knew of a 1998 investigation involving sexually inappropriate behavior by Sandusky with a boy in the showers the football team used. But despite his job overseeing campus police, he never reported the 2002 allegations to any authorities, "never sought or received a police report on the 1998 incident and never attempted to learn the identity of the child in the show in 2002," the jurors wrote. "No one from the university did so." Spanier released a statement calling the allegations against Sandusky "troubling" and adding Curley and Schultz had his unconditional support. He predicted they will be exonerated. "I have known and worked daily with Tim and Gary for more than 16 years," he said. "I have complete confidence in how they handled the allegations about a former university employee." Sandusky, once considered a potential successor to Paterno, drew up the defenses for the Nittany Lions' national-title teams in 1982 and 1986. The team is enjoying another successful run this season; at 8-1, Penn State is ranked No. 16 in the AP Top 25 and is the last undefeated squad in Big Ten play. The Nittany Lions were off Saturday.
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11-07-2011, 11:03 AM	#77
FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	I'm confused. What does this have to do with religious beliefs? I must have missed something. It's far more likely that the Illuminati hired the Freemasons to recruit this guy. FAX
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11-07-2011, 11:24 AM	#78
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11-07-2011, 11:46 AM	#79
Swanman It's a league game, Dude Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Itasca, IL Casino cash: $9967354	Joe Pa has been a joke for the last several years, but this year is especially bad, with him sitting up in the booth just looking grumpy and not even wearing a headset. Hopefully this scandal puts that whole charade to rest for good.
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11-07-2011, 12:19 PM	#82
lcarus Everybody Lies. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue Casino cash: $-1989887	So this Sandusky guy used a "bubble fight" to further his sexual advancement in the shower? Michael Jackson could learn a thing or two from this guy...
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11-07-2011, 12:23 PM	#83
eazyb81 The Illuminati Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: the road less traveled Casino cash: $9984900	No one has brought up the elephant in the room yet: Sandusky and his wife have 6 adopted children and served as foster parents to countless others. I bet we haven't even hit the tip of the iceberg on allegations yet.
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11-07-2011, 12:30 PM	#84
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $9122208	so posnanski has been working on a bio of Paterno...his take: http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/11/0...ess/#more-8508 "A few months ago, I began working on a book about Penn State coach Joe Paterno. I have spent the last few months living in State College, Pa. Paterno gave me permission to write the book, but plays no editorial role in it.... ...On Saturday, I read what might be the most haunting and sickening 23 pages of my life — the grand jury findings in the case of Jerry Sandusky, the once legendary defensive coordinator of Penn State University. " __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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11-07-2011, 12:45 PM	#89
lcarus Everybody Lies. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue Casino cash: $-1989887	This is absolutely unbelievable. Is there any way Paterno is totally innocent in all this? I've always been fond of him sort of. Not anymore...not if he turned his back on this...
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11-07-2011, 12:57 PM	#90
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I'm willing to bet Paterno didn't know Sandusky was diddling dozens of children...I have a feeling Paterno should have done more, but I think it's a lot tougher to sell out a "friend" or at least a "coworker" than people think. Of course, if Paterno knew that he was having sex with dozens of children it is inexcusable. But how do we know if he knew? He reported what was told to him to his AD...was that enough? Probably not. But he did do something and as of now he's not facing any charges. So I don't think the focus of this story should be on him, yet (at least). But I know that's where the big news would be so that's all anyone is going to talk about. It's hard to find a good comparison in my mind...if I saw my close friend punch his girlfriend in the face...I don't think I'd call the police and report an assault. I'd be disturbed, I'd probably say something to him like "come on man, you can never do that!" but it would put me in a very tough situation. Does he hit all of his girlfriends? What else has he done? Perhaps it would make me rethink my decision to have him as a close friend...but I wouldn't immediately pick up the phone and dial 911 etc... now I know child molestation is about the most grotesque thing in this world...so there's that...and if the G.A. flat out told JoePa that he witnessed Sandusky having anal sex with a 10 year old boy and JoePa turned a blind eye for years after...then there's that... but from what I've heard now this same G.A. is now a WR coach who would still be right there on that same campus Sandusky still roams around... so??? I don't know. I don't think Joe Paterno is the guy everyone should be worried about...perhaps, indirectly, he was an enabler but I highly doubt he was telling Sandusky to "make sure and lock up and clean up after himself" or anything like that... Either way...I realize the big story is with JoePa and everyone likes big stories...but I think it's really unfair to pin another man's sick crimes on Joe Paterno.
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