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Old 11-07-2011, 07:31 PM   #1
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A job is pretty irrelevant when you're talking about not going directly to the police to report a man having sex with minors. What's so god damn hard to figure out about that? He chose not to, and now he's going to lose his job anyways and a lot of other minors were raped.

What a kick ass decision by "one of the good guys"
Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
Scary shit. Being afraid to turn on authority is human nature. I'd like to believe I'd act differently, but it's easy to say that from the sidelines. Let me ask you this. If you studied to be a lawyer. You spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on tuition, education, etc... Spent endless nights cramming for the bar. You land a great job. You work your ass off and finally earn some respect. You catch one of the partners doing something wildly inappropriate. This partner's a powerful guy. If you say a word about it, you not only lose your job, he can find a way to get you dis-barred, and he'll make sure to let everyone he knows to make sure you never get a decent job ever again. You've got a family and kids. You've got 30 years ahead of you. Now we're no longer talking about losing $100,000 a year, we're talking about losing $3 Million (over 30 years).

I'm a pretty ethical guy. But I believe if I saw a guy murdering someone on the street, my first reaction would be absolute fear. For my own life. I hate that that's the case, but I'm trying to be realistic. I think grilling a young, impressionable kid for not turning in probably the 2nd most powerful guy not just on the team, but even on campus... that's not as easy as we make it out to be from the sidelines.
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Old 11-07-2011, 07:34 PM   #2
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I'm not sure which is more ridiculous.

You trying to defend McQueary, or thinking the guy would be blackballed from college football or any other job because he turned in a child molester.
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Old 11-07-2011, 07:37 PM   #3
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I'm not sure which is more ridiculous.

You trying to defend McQueary, or thinking the guy would be blackballed from college football or any other job because he turned in a child molester.
No shit. He may be done NOW that this is out. In the end it will be worse for him now. (No pun intended)
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Old 11-07-2011, 07:39 PM   #4
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Old 11-07-2011, 07:44 PM   #5
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I'm not sure which is more ridiculous.

You trying to defend McQueary, or thinking the guy would be blackballed from college football or any other job because he turned in a child molester.
Hi, I'm an NCAA head coach looking to hire an Assistant. My school commits all kinds of borderline shady recruiting violations and I'm looking for a defensive coach. So let me "do the right thing" and please do me a huge, huge favor, and don't turn in anything you see on the recruiting front to the NCAA. I can trust you, right? Pretty please?

But I'm going to hire you, because you did the right thing.
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Old 11-07-2011, 07:47 PM   #6
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Hi, I'm an NCAA head coach looking to hire an Assistant. My school commits all kinds of borderline shady recruiting violations and I'm looking for a defensive coach. So let me "do the right thing" and please do me a huge, huge favor, and don't turn in anything you see on the recruiting front to the NCAA. I can trust you, right? Pretty please?

But I'm going to hire you, because you did the right thing.
Holy shit, just when I think your posts in this thread couldn't possibly get any more ignorant, you post this.

*speechless*
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Old 11-07-2011, 07:49 PM   #7
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Hi, I'm an NCAA head coach looking to hire an Assistant. My school commits all kinds of borderline shady recruiting violations and I'm looking for a defensive coach. So let me "do the right thing" and please do me a huge, huge favor, and don't turn in anything you see on the recruiting front to the NCAA. I can trust you, right? Pretty please?

But I'm going to hire you, because you did the right thing.
Hi, I'm an NCAA head coach looking to hire a recruiting coordinator. I would prefer one will make parents feel like they are making a good safe decision by sending their kid to our institution. Nothing assures parents more than sending someone that kept quiet about child rape.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:05 PM   #8
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Hi, I'm an NCAA head coach looking to hire a recruiting coordinator. I would prefer one will make parents feel like they are making a good safe decision by sending their kid to our institution. Nothing assures parents more than sending someone that kept quiet about child rape.
If you're hiring a recruiting coordinator for a D-1 program, you are going to ask him to do some shady, shady shit. They are going to ask you to sneak money to kids in every way possible to get them to join their school. And they're all doing it. We've learned pretty quickly that Athletic Directors are pretty shady characters. You honestly think they're looking for the ethical guy vs. a guy they know will keep his mouth shut? That's not the way the world works, much as I wish it did.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:08 PM   #9
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If you're hiring a recruiting coordinator for a D-1 program, you are going to ask him to do some shady, shady shit. They are going to ask you to sneak money to kids in every way possible to get them to join their school. And they're all doing it. We've learned pretty quickly that Athletic Directors are pretty shady characters. You honestly think they're looking for the ethical guy vs. a guy they know will keep his mouth shut? That's not the way the world works, much as I wish it did.
Are you really trying to compare paying players under the table in recruiting to child molestation? Really?
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:11 PM   #10
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Hi, I'm an NCAA head coach looking to hire an Assistant. My school commits all kinds of borderline shady recruiting violations and I'm looking for a defensive coach. So let me "do the right thing" and please do me a huge, huge favor, and don't turn in anything you see on the recruiting front to the NCAA. I can trust you, right? Pretty please?

But I'm going to hire you, because you did the right thing.
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Holy shit, just when I think your posts in this thread couldn't possibly get any more ignorant, you post this.

*speechless*
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If you're hiring a recruiting coordinator for a D-1 program, you are going to ask him to do some shady, shady shit. They are going to ask you to sneak money to kids in every way possible to get them to join their school. And they're all doing it. We've learned pretty quickly that Athletic Directors are pretty shady characters. You honestly think they're looking for the ethical guy vs. a guy they know will keep his mouth shut? That's not the way the world works, much as I wish it did.
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Are you really trying to compare paying players under the table in recruiting to child molestation? Really?
Welp, apparently there is another rung on Zilla's ignorance ladder.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:11 PM   #11
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Are you really trying to compare paying players under the table in recruiting to child molestation? Really?
When did I say that?

I'm saying that McQueary snitches, and his career goes backwards. Athletic Directors are crooked. They're not looking to hire the good guy. They're not going to hire a guy who turned a coach in and sunk their program, and could just as easily sink theirs. It shouldn't be that way, but it is.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:34 PM   #12
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Are you really trying to compare paying players under the table in recruiting to child molestation? Really?
This. Complete argument fail.
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If you're hiring a recruiting coordinator for a D-1 program, you are going to ask him to do some shady, shady shit. They are going to ask you to sneak money to kids in every way possible to get them to join their school. And they're all doing it. We've learned pretty quickly that Athletic Directors are pretty shady characters. You honestly think they're looking for the ethical guy vs. a guy they know will keep his mouth shut? That's not the way the world works, much as I wish it did.
If you can't determine the difference between dumb stuff like giving kids money, cars and clothes and being a part of a cover up on crimes against humanity, I have literally no idea what to tell you.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:15 PM   #14
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If you can't determine the difference between dumb stuff like giving kids money, cars and clothes and being a part of a cover up on crimes against humanity, I have literally no idea what to tell you.
You've completely misinterpreted, as has everyone else.

People are claiming McQueary's career would have been fine if he snitched. I'm claiming that Athletic Directors who run shady programs (and they all do) aren't going to hire a rat just because he's a good guy. That is so ridiculously unrealistic. College programs are shady. They're not looking to do the right thing. McQueary's career takes a huge hit if he snitches. It sucks that society works that way, but that's why in so many situations, we see so many good people afraid to blow the whistle.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:04 PM   #15
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Hi, I'm an NCAA head coach looking to hire an Assistant. My school commits all kinds of borderline shady recruiting violations and I'm looking for a defensive coach. So let me "do the right thing" and please do me a huge, huge favor, and don't turn in anything you see on the recruiting front to the NCAA. I can trust you, right? Pretty please?

But I'm going to hire you, because you did the right thing.
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