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Old 11-07-2011, 05:03 PM  
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A guy on Sportsnation just said....
If the Patriots didn't have Tom Brady they would be the Chiefs (no playmakers).

Hurts but it's kind of true.
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:19 PM   #31
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I was just thinking about this today actually. The Chiefs could have drafted Gronkowski but went with McCluster instead.
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:21 PM   #32
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it's amazing what an elite QB can do for a team. Without Brady they would be even worse, but even with him, their defense is so terrible this season they won't contend. You still need a good defense regardless of who your QB is.
Coach Vermeil says no and you don't even need an elite QB
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Old 11-07-2011, 07:22 PM   #33
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Old 11-07-2011, 07:39 PM   #34
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:13 PM   #35
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:36 PM   #36
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same could be said about 20+ other teams. Why limit it to the chiefs?

Also, the patriots have fallen from grace. Back in 2007-2008, when cassel was with the patriots....he still excelled thanks largely to the supporting cast he had in NE.


I think cassels problems are with the coaching. Sure, he shares some of the blame, but we've had 3 different OC's in the past 3 years. Mix that with a shoddy OL and few playmakers to boot, and we have the perfect storm.
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:30 PM   #37
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same could be said about 20+ other teams. Why limit it to the chiefs?

Also, the patriots have fallen from grace. Back in 2007-2008, when cassel was with the patriots....he still excelled thanks largely to the supporting cast he had in NE.


I think cassels problems are with the coaching. Sure, he shares some of the blame, but we've had 3 different OC's in the past 3 years. Mix that with a shoddy OL and few playmakers to boot, and we have the perfect storm.
It's not like they've changed to offense, it's just a different guy calling the plays. That defense does not work in this situation.
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:33 PM   #38
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It would be nice if any of you who call this a incredibly stupid comment would elaborate. IMO, if they don't have Brady, they are actually worse than the Chiefs, but really all he is saying is that without Brady, the Patriots are a 6-10 to 9-7 team. Which is being pretty generous.
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:35 PM   #39
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It would be nice if any of you who call this a incredibly stupid comment would elaborate. IMO, if they don't have Brady, they are actually worse than the Chiefs, but really all he is saying is that without Brady, the Patriots are a 6-10 to 9-7 team. Which is being pretty generous.
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:38 PM   #40
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What a stupid, stupid, statement. On so many levels.

wish i could get paid to make stupid, stupid comments.
We couldn't afford you.

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Old 11-07-2011, 09:39 PM   #41
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We don't have play makers????
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:58 PM   #42
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I thought I heard this on ESPN this morning, and didn't hear the no playmakers part.
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Old 11-07-2011, 10:20 PM   #43
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It's kind of a stupid statement I heard it myself. Sort of true though.

but two of our playmakers are on IR Charles, Moeaki
Baldwin has played in 3 games you can't label him a playmaker although I think he will be
McCluster is a playmaker in his own way. kickoffs, punts, reverses
So really the only playmaker we have now is bowe

Next year this team will be loaded with playmakers...especially with a new QB.
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Old 11-07-2011, 10:23 PM   #44
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We don't have play makers????

they are all on IR...
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Old 11-07-2011, 10:24 PM   #45
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It's kind of a stupid statement I heard it myself. Sort of true though.

but two of our playmakers are on IR Charles, Moeaki
Baldwin has played in 3 games you can't label him a playmaker although I think he will be
McCluster is a playmaker in his own way. kickoffs, punts, reverses
So really the only playmaker we have now is bowe

Next year this team will be loaded with playmakers...especially with a new QB.
Shit, if you gave Brady Steve Breaston and Dwayne Bowe along with some of the guys we have on defense, that's a super bowl team for sure.
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