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chop · 11-07-2011, 05:03 PM

If the Patriots didn't have Tom Brady they would be the Chiefs (no playmakers).

Hurts but it's kind of true.

DBOSHO · 11-07-2011, 10:30 PM

If the chiefs had brady we would win 4 straight superbowls. Im not kidding in the slightest on that.

The closest tom has had to bowe was randy, and with baldwin, he would basically have 2. Add a serious running threat with charles and thats multiple championships.

**chefsos** · 11-07-2011, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

I thought I heard this on ESPN this morning, and didn't hear the no playmakers part.

I think you're right. It was Cowherd who said it, twice, once on his morning show and again on SN. I didn't hear the "no playmakers" comment this morning either.

Mama Hip Rockets · 11-07-2011, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chefsos

I might be an idiot, but I think if the Chiefs and Pats switched QBs today, KC would be the better team.

I'm pretty sure 100 out of 100 people would agree with you. Not sure why you think that makes you an idiot.

**chefsos** · 11-07-2011, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman

I'm pretty sure 100 out of 100 people would agree with you. Not sure why you think that makes you an idiot.

Oh, I have plenty of other symptoms of idiocy...

Garcia Bronco · 11-07-2011, 11:16 PM

You should be better than the Pats with Brady as the QB of the chiefs. You've been drafting high enough.

aturnis · 11-07-2011, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

You should be better than the Pats with Brady as the QB of the chiefs. You've been drafting high enough.

I remember my first beer...

Oh Snap · 11-08-2011, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

It's not like they've changed to offense, it's just a different guy calling the plays. That defense does not work in this situation.

I disagree.

And honestly, I don't think the full potential for this team is fully understood, atleast offensively. We have no identity on offense right now, and that is a problem. Its partly why this team is a mediocre team. IF we get the right OC, and adjustments made to the OL, this team can be scarey good imo.

Sure, cassel isnt going to set NFL records as our QB. But he can be a successful game time manager if he has the right supporting cast around him, like he had back in NE. There are several issues facing the offense, but we do have some srs firepower on offense as well. The triple B-threats we have on offense can do some srs damage to opposing secondaries. Once we get Moeaki back, along with Charles, this offense has some srs weapons. The issue imo then becomes the OL and OC. Get those issues fixed (goodbye richardson and Muir) we can finally give Cassel the protection and plays he needs to develop into a legit NFL QB.

I remember Vermiel talking about how we managed to have the dominate offense we had back when he coached. He said it all started with the OL. The OL is the foundation for your offense. If you have a strong OL, you will have a strong offense regardless of who you have at RB and QB. Just look back at our offense under Vermiel. Derrick Blaylock looked like a pro-bowler for christ sake! Even Trent Green was a top 5 QB back then.

We are a couple players away imo from being a srs contender in this league.

HoneyBadger · 11-08-2011, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsrGood

It's kind of a stupid statement I heard it myself. Sort of true though.

but two of our playmakers are on IR Charles, Moeaki
Baldwin has played in 3 games you can't label him a playmaker although I think he will be
McCluster is a playmaker in his own way. kickoffs, punts, reverses
So really the only playmaker we have now is bowe

Next year this team will be loaded with playmakers...especially with a new QB.

What about Berry? He's not a playmaker?

Dex just is horrible. To call him a "playmaker" is ridiculous. If we only have 1 now and 2 injured, how will we "be loaded" next year?

**Rausch** · 11-08-2011, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by chop

If the Patriots didn't have Tom Brady they would be the Chiefs (no playmakers).

Hurts but it's kind of true.

If the Chiefs had Brady we'd be competing for a ****ing super bowl (with our injuries.)

Caseyguyrr · 11-08-2011, 03:57 AM

if the chiefs had a better offense and defense we would be a better team

BoneKrusher · 11-08-2011, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Oh Snap

I think cassels problems are with the coaching.

Cassel's ok as long as the Chiefs are playing with a lead.

if they fall behind by two-three scores, forget it.
(except for the colts game, they wanted to lose to stay frontrunners for Luck.)

Gary · 11-08-2011, 06:36 AM

Carlos Dansby did an interview with a sports reporter a few days ago & they were talking about it on my local sports radio yesterday. He basically said the defense could see very early on in that game that Cassel was completely lost trying to figure out all the different looks they were throwing at him and they knew they had him.

BoneKrusher · 11-08-2011, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary

Carlos Dansby did an interview with a sports reporter a few days ago & they were talking about it on my local sports radio yesterday. He basically said the defense could see very early on in that game that Cassel was completely lost trying to figure out all the different looks they were throwing at him and they knew they had him.

ya, Cassel will never be able to read a defense.

bricks · 11-08-2011, 06:51 AM

Luck pays its dividends. It's all about being lucky when it comes to getting really good qbs. Unfortunately, Chiefs haven't had their share.

movinbones · 11-08-2011, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by chefsos

I might be an idiot, but I think if the Chiefs and Pats switched QBs today, KC would be the better team.

As I watched another embarrassing game by Matt Cassel I was thinking the Chiefs should see if we could play the game with an all-time QB.

M. Moore 17/23 244 10.6 3 0 147.5

We could have used a performance like this

Matt Moore are you ****ing kidding me????

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Gary The Shepherd Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sunny Florida Casino cash: $9955472	Carlos Dansby did an interview with a sports reporter a few days ago & they were talking about it on my local sports radio yesterday. He basically said the defense could see very early on in that game that Cassel was completely lost trying to figure out all the different looks they were throwing at him and they knew they had him. __________________ The truth is you're the weak and I am the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin Ringo...I'm tryin real hard to be the shepherd.
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