Chiefs PFF Grades the Chiefs, Week 9 - Page 6

Hammock Parties · 11-08-2011, 06:07 PM

1. Jonathan Baldwin's snaps went up to 38 this week, with 32 on pass plays. Considering we had 55 passing snaps, that's not enough.

2. Branden Albert, Ryan Lilja and Casey Wiegmann are innocent. They all had positive grades (although Albert gave up 3 pressures). Your culprits are Jon Asamoah and Barry Richardson, although interestingly enough their pass blocking grades are not wildly horrible. Their run blocking was terrible though. Richardson allowed 4 QB pressures, Asamoah 3.

3. One guy no one is talking about: Jake O'Connell. His pass protection was terrible at a -2.7. Blitz pickup FAIL.

4. The only guy credited with allowing a sack was Matt Cassel. Which again points to the talk that the Dolphins simply brought more guys than we could block. Coaching fail.

5. Cassel was under pressure 16 times. On those plays he ran 7 times, completed no passes, and was sacked 5 times. Get me a new QB.

6. Nobody on defense had a green rating this week. That means everyone was average at best, and there is a lot of red on the page.

7. Interestingly enough, Jovan Belcher had a nice game with 7 stops.

8. We had 0 QB pressures.

9. Nobody in this game was good in coverage. Carr and Flowers were targeted 12 times, and gave up 10 catches for 129 yards. The Dolphins didn't throw at anyone else that much, although Studebaker, DJ, Pieceofshitty and Travis Daniels all gave up one big play each.

PFF's recap:

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Dolphins – Three Performances of Note

Showing Moore effort

What a turnaround for Moore in this game! Prior to Week 9, Moore’s highest passing grade was +2.0, while against the Chiefs it was +6.5. Moore was incredibly accurate with 17 of his 22 throws caught —discounting, batted passes, throwaways — with another two passes dropped, and did so without changing his aggressive approach. In fact, only two incompletions were from beyond ten yards and his 244 passing yards indicate a healthy 10.6 yards per attempt. Moore made the Chiefs pay for blitzing him, completing all five pass attempts against the blitz for 55 yards and two of his three touchdown passes. The former Panther didn’t feel any pressure all game and he responded with improved decision-making and remarkable accuracy. It’s too bad the Dolphins can’t have a perfect game in pass protection every game, because if this Moore was around every week, Chad Henne would have been long-forgotten by this point in the season.

Tight end make significant contributions

Anthony Fasano (+2.8) became the first Dolphins TE since 2008 to catch two touchdown passes in one game, when he caught them, and played a big role in the Dolphins win. After a disappointing first half of the season, Fasano turned in his best game of the year and made plays through the air and blocking in the run game. His second touchdown, at 9:55 in the second quarter, was the product of good play-design and execution as Moore rolls out to the right, freezing ILB Derrick Johnson up just long enough for the big TE to get behind him and stretch for the touchdown. Fasano is known more for his blocking than receiving skills, though, and he didn’t sacrifice the former for the latter in this game. He helped spring Bush (+2.2) for a touchdown in the third quarter with a key block on left OLB Tamba Hali (-2.4) on a reverse to his side.

Defensive standouts

Typically this spot would be reserved to discuss a poor performance or two, but when a previously winless team turns in a 31-3 road victory, it’s hard not to want to give credit rather than blame for once. In that spirit, let’s briefly look at a few standout defensive performances. DE Kendall Langford (+3.7) had his highest-graded output of the season thanks to five pressures of Matt Cassel. ILB Karlos Dansby (+2.7) was extremely active all over the field and finished with a sack, three tackles for loss, and a pair of tackles short of first-down yardage on third down, giving him a total of five defensive stops for the game. Kevin Burnett (+2.0) had his best game of the season for the second week in a row and is starting to look like the player Miami expected to get when they signed him. For those looking to find fault with the team’s first win, look to the secondary, where rookie CB Jimmy Wilson (-3.6) and veteran safety Yeremiah Bell (-1.1) combined for five penalties. Wilson’s penalties were pass interference calls he supplemented with a couple missed tackles. Bell was the victim of a poor unnecessary roughness call, but the other two were his own doing.

Chiefs: Three Performances of Note

Oh my, O’Connell

After seeing the contributions of Fasano and Clay up close and personal, have the Chiefs felt the loss of Tony Moeaki more sharply than now? It doesn’t help that their own TEs didn’t play too well in this one. Leonard Pope (-1.3) didn’t have a good game by any means, but the true offender was Jake O’Connell. O’Connell (-3.8) was graded negatively in every facet we grade players, and when you play 57 snaps and don’t perform well in any capacity, you’re likely to play a big part in a team’s loss and grace the virtual pages of our Re-focused articles, or worse, Khaled’s “Had a Bad Day” articles. Besides being a non-factor as a receiver, O’Connell allowed three pressures of Cassell in only 14 pass-block attempts and drew a holding penalty. The sting is that much more painful with Fasano’s big day on the other side.

Problems in Washington’s D, see

The Chiefs have suffered some bad performances at the safety position this year, but Donald Washington’s (-4.0) game against the Dolphins ranks up there. Washington didn’t record a tackle, but he did miss two, although one was erased through an unrelated penalty. The penalty was a stroke of luck for Washington, as his missed tackle of Bush allowed Bush to run free down the sideline for significant extra yardage all the way down near the five-yard line. He also bit on a play-fake that allowed Fasano to sneak into the back of the end zone for his first touchdown catch, uncontested. Additionally, Washington committed a costly unnecessary roughness penalty for a late hit on Bush after he was stopped for a short gain that would have led to 3rd-and-6 at the Dolphins own eight-yard line. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the recipe for an all-around poor game.

Where’s the rush?

Again, normally this paragraph would serve to remind that it’s not all bad when a team loses and that there are strong performances in almost any defeat. In this game, though, it’s far more relevant to continue discussing the poor performances than to ignore them to discuss a performance that had far less impact on the game. The root of the problem for the Chiefs in this game was their inability to get any pressure whatsoever. It’s not uncommon for the Chiefs defense to struggle to get pressure outside of Tamba Hali (-2.4), but when Hali is shut down as he was, somebody else has to step up. They did not and Moore, a QB who typically struggles under pressure, was able to sling the ball around care-free. Hali actually had more penalties called against him than he did pressures, a feat that certainly doesn’t occur very often. Despite their inability to get any pressure in this game, the Chiefs only called five blitzes. That number will need to increase if the Chiefs continue to struggle to get to the opposing quarterback.

Game Notes

- Thanks mainly to their collective perfect game in pass protection, the entire Dolphins offensive line outside of right guard Vernon Carey (-0.6) graded in the green, marking the first time right tackle Marc Colombo has done so all season.

- In 16 drop-backs under pressure, Cassel took off running seven times, absorbed five sacks, and completed none of the four passes he actually got off.

- Bush’s strong game marked the first time he’s graded in the green in back-to-back games since weeks 2-3 of 2008 season.

PFF Game Ball

Quarterbacking a winless team to a victory takes enough grit to warrant consideration for this award regardless, but Matt Moore’s impressive display erases all doubt.

O.city · 11-08-2011, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic

See Alex Smith for further assistance.
See the Chiefs 2010 NFL season with Charlie Weis and Matt Cassel.
See the Patriots 2008 NFL season with Josh McDaniels and Matt Cassel.

A good coaching staff can make any offense be productive.

How many good teams have the 9ers beat this year? We know about the 2010 Chiefs so just by you using that example I question your logic.

And we weren't talking about an offense being productive. We were talking about beating a good team in the league. It took Flaaco going Montana for the Ravens to go into Pitt and win.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-08-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

How many good teams have the 9ers beat this year? We know about the 2010 Chiefs so just by you using that example I question your logic.

And we weren't talking about an offense being productive. We were talking about beating a good team in the league. It took Flaaco going Montana for the Ravens to go into Pitt and win.

The 49ers have beaten tons of good teams this year.

The Bengals in Cinci, the Eagles across the country in Philly (winning there is impressive considering) and the Lions in Detroit. They shitbeat the Bucs, who are a decent team.

The 49ers are a complete team right now and I think they are built to do some real damage in January.

O.city · 11-08-2011, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

The 49ers have beaten tons of good teams this year.

The Bengals in Cinci, the Eagles across the country in Philly (winning there is impressive considering) and the Lions in Detroit. They shitbeat the Bucs, who are a decent team.

The 49ers are a complete team right now and I think they are built to do some real damage in January.

Not with Alex Smith at qb. Sorry but I just don't think we will see a team win a superbowl again without an elite qb.

And I think the Bengals are this years Chiefs. They haven't beaten anyone yet either.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-08-2011, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

The 49ers have beaten tons of good teams this year.

The Bengals in Cinci, the Eagles across the country in Philly (winning there is impressive considering) and the Lions in Detroit. They shitbeat the Bucs, who are a decent team.

The 49ers are a complete team right now and I think they are built to do some real damage in January.

The 49ers are a 90s Chiefs clone. You couldn't make that team any more like the 90s Chiefs. You should know how this script ends.

Iconic · 11-08-2011, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

How many good teams have the 9ers beat this year? We know about the 2010 Chiefs so just by you using that example I question your logic.

And we weren't talking about an offense being productive. We were talking about beating a good team in the league. It took Flaaco going Montana for the Ravens to go into Pitt and win.

9ers have beat Cincy, Philly, Tampa Bay, Detriot, and had a VERY close one against Dallas. These are all competent teams and one of which has already proven they can kick our ass. They've done this all in spite of having Alex Smith as their QB.

I'm logically sane thank you. If Haley can't get our offense to produce there's a huge problem with HIM. He has received Le'ron McClain, Steve Breaston, a new gem in Battle, our first round draft pick Baldwin, and Hudson/Gaither. I realize Jamaal and Moeaki are out but a good Coach will make changes when injuries occur. Which is why I point to the 2008 Patriot season.

O.city · 11-08-2011, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The 49ers are a 90s Chiefs clone. You couldn't make that team any more like the 90s Chiefs. You should know how this script ends.

Bingo. They run the ball, play good d, and tell the qb not to **** up too bad. Remind you of anything?

**BossChief** · 11-08-2011, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

No one replied or said anything about it so I'll ask again: What would be everyone's thought about trying to get Mallett from the Pats? You could keep most of this years draft to add more talent and get a guy that already is better and has more potential than our qb does.

Again I like some aspects of this and don't like some. Just throwing it out there.

Ive said this the last few times Ive chosen to respond to the possibility.

For NE to want to trade Mallett, they would have to be getting a premium on the pick they used to select him...at least a full round higher and then some.

OR

They would also have to look at him as a guy they can live without in the future and a guy that has problems as anticipated.

Now, onto us...

During the draft, we didnt feel he was worth even a third rounder....so, something would have to have changed between now and the time of the previous draft that made him worth a lot more to us.

I would have to believe that if NE thinks highly of Mallett, they would have to be demanding a early second rounder at worst and a mid to late first at best and I dont think that would be worth it.

Ryan has a big timer arm ( I honestly don't think its head and shoulders higher than Stanzis, though), but doesn't do very well under pressure, isn't exceptionally accurate, is a Statue of Bledsoe back there and has real questions about a serious drug problem that may or may not exist.

For me, Id rather make a move for one of the kids in this upcoming draft and make a ****ing statement that "you are our kid and we are gonna develop you into a great quarterback"

IMO a trade for Mallett would be only slightly better than trading for Cassel.

We need OUR OWN KID, NOT SOMEBODY ELSES FOR THE NEXT GO AROUND, PLEASE!!!!

PLEASE!!!!

**The Bad Guy** · 11-08-2011, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The 49ers are a 90s Chiefs clone. You couldn't make that team any more like the 90s Chiefs. You should know how this script ends.

I think they are a dangerous team. I could be very wrong, but I think their coaching takes them far.

O.city · 11-08-2011, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic

9ers have beat Cincy, Philly, Tampa Bay, Detriot, and had a VERY close one against Dallas. These are all competent teams and one of which has already proven they can kick our ass. They've done this all in spite of having Alex Smith as their QB.

I'm logically sane thank you. If Haley can't get our offense to produce there's a huge problem with HIM. He has received Le'ron McClain, Steve Breaston, a new gem in Battle, our first round draft pick Baldwin, and Hudson/Gaither. I realize Jamal and Moeaki are out but a good Coach will make changes when injuries occur. Which is why I point to the 2008 Patriot season.

I agree with you man about the guys we have on offense. We have the weapons to have a top 10 offense. We just don't have the qb and that's really all that matters.

Iconic · 11-08-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I agree with you man about the guys we have on offense. We have the weapons to have a top 10 offense. We just don't have the qb and that's really all that matters.

If a QB is all that matters then the 08 Pats would have lost every single game because they had the same guy under center that we have now.

O.city · 11-08-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Ive said this the last few times Ive chosen to respond to the possibility.

For NE to want to trade Mallett, they would have to be getting a premium on the pick they used to select him...at least a full round higher and then some.

OR

They would also have to look at him as a guy they can live without in the future and a guy that has problems as anticipated.

Now, onto us...

During the draft, we didnt feel he was worth even a third rounder....so, something would have to have changed between now and the time of the previous draft that made him worth a lot more to us.

I would have to believe that if NE thinks highly of Mallett, they would have to be demanding a early second rounder at worst and a mid to late first at best and I dont think that would be worth it.

Ryan has a big timer arm ( I honestly don't think its head and shoulders higher than Stanzis, though), but doesn't do very well under pressure, isn't exceptionally accurate, is a Statue of Bledsoe back there and has real questions about a serious drug problem that may or may not exist.

For me, Id rather make a move for one of the kids in this upcoming draft and make a ****ing statement that "you are our kid and we are gonna develop you into a great quarterback"

IMO a trade for Mallett would be only slightly better than trading for Cassel.

We need OUR OWN KID, NOT SOMEBODY ELSES FOR THE NEXT GO AROUND, PLEASE!!!!

PLEASE!!!!

Man not to be blunt, but the Stanzi thing is getting a little to crazy. His arm is not close to Malletts. I also want our own, but there's no way we trade up to get one of the ones in this years draft.

I thought he was pretty accurate in college. Not arguing with you just thought he was.

ILChief · 11-08-2011, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

No one replied or said anything about it so I'll ask again: What would be everyone's thought about trying to get Mallett from the Pats? You could keep most of this years draft to add more talent and get a guy that already is better and has more potential than our qb does.

Again I like some aspects of this and don't like some. Just throwing it out there.

I'd rather go with Stanzi than Mallett

O.city · 11-08-2011, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic

If a QB is all that matters then the 08 Pats would have lost every single game because they had the same guy under center that we have now.

To drive home my point that you can't beat great teams very often without a great qb, look at the Pats schedule that year and who they beat. It's very Chiefs 2010 esque.

**BossChief** · 11-08-2011, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief

I'd rather go with Stanzi than Mallett

Id also rather go with Stanzi than all but 3 (maybe 4) of the quarterbacks in this upcoming class.

O.city · 11-08-2011, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Id also rather go with Stanzi than all but 3 (maybe 4) of the quarterbacks in this upcoming class.

I'd atleast like to see him play a little this year.

If we compete for the rest of the year and win 7-9 games with the injuries we have had this year, I think it would be a mistake not to push in the chips and try and get one of the top prospects in this years class.