Books Book Review: War Room - The Legacy of Bill Belichick/Art of Building Perfect Team

**the Talking Can** · 11-09-2011, 08:40 AM

is there any sense, from the book, about how they'll deal with the QB position moving forward?

they have to know Cassel is the weak link...they have to

Chiefnj2 · 11-09-2011, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

is there any sense, from the book, about how they'll deal with the QB position moving forward?

they have to know Cassel is the weak link...they have to

None. Seem content with Cassel.

Although they recognized it's a pass league now which is why they took Stanzi. Main scout, Emery, felt Stanzi was the player the league would look back on in a few years and say "how did this guy fall in the draft?"

milkman · 11-09-2011, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

None. Seem content with Cassel.

Although they recognized it's a pass league now which is why they took Stanzi. Main scout, Emery, felt Stanzi was the player the league would look back on in a few years and say "how did this guy fall in the draft?"

In other words, they are banking on finding the next Tom Brady.

Chiefnj2 · 11-09-2011, 09:17 AM

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In other words, they are banking on finding the next Tom Brady.

Not a lot of talk about Cassel. 90% of the time Cassel was mentioned it was in relation to his first year starting in New England. The other 10% was how Pioli immediately went after him and maybe a brief mention about the Ravens playoff game. No discussion about his progress or regression in KC.

milkman · 11-09-2011, 09:19 AM

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Not a lot of talk about Cassel. 90% of the time Cassel was mentioned it was in relation to his first year starting in New England. The other 10% was how Pioli immediately went after him and maybe a brief mention about the Ravens playoff game. No discussion about his progress or regression in KC.

I get that.

I am just commenting on the Stanzi comment.

The only way that teams will ever look back and wonder how they let Stanzi slip is for Stanzi to get on the field.

That suggests that the backup plan in case they are wrong about Cassel is Stanzi.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-09-2011, 09:44 AM

NJ covered most of the stuff I highlighted. Here's a few extra:

Thank the Eagles for Powe, KC was ready to take Chris Kelce with that pick. Thought he was the next Dan Koppen.

Haley used to push Fitz so hard in Arizona that Larry would playfully offer Haley a handful of hundred dollar bills before team meetings so Haley wouldn't show his mistakes in front of teammates.

Was in agreement with the move Dimitroff make to move up for Julio Jones. Dimitroff called BB and Pioli to talk about it. BB said he wouldn't do it, Pioli said he would. Called him after the pick and said, "I'm sitting here with Clark, and we both say that took some big ones. Congrats."

Dimitroff started thinking about moving up for Jones in October.

Julio Jones wanted to skip lunch on his visit to KC so he and Haley could go to Haley's house to play ping-pong so they could see who was better.

Chiefs really liked Mark Ingram.

After the playoff game, Pioli says, "We're just not good enough. At the end of the year, when we couldn't sneak up on teams and we played good teams, we felt it. What do we need? There aren't many positions we can look at and say we don't need the help there. We've got holes today, but we also have holes that are a year away. I've seen a great roster. We are so far away from a great roster. So far away."

Obvious tension between Haley and Weis, though few people are aware of the depths of it. Holley doesn't elaborate other than to say they see the offense differently.

The Patriots were planning on taking Steven Jackson in the 1st round of the 2004 draft, until Wilfork unexpectedly dropped to them.

That's pretty much it.

Overall, it seemed like of the three teams, the Chiefs gave less access, or maybe just weren't as forthcoming with Holley. Maybe Holley just didn't ask the right questions. But it seems Holley gets a lot more out of Dimitroff than he does Pioli, and honestly, I think a Falcons fan will get more from this book. There's some new Patriots info, but a lot of it is just regurgitated from his access during Patriot Reign.

Deberg_1990 · 11-09-2011, 09:32 AM

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In other words, they are banking on finding the next Tom Brady.

heh, i thought the same thing about that qoute.

Whats frustrating about Cassel is his play is "just good enough" to not ever be pulled or benched.

**the Talking Can** · 11-09-2011, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

heh, i thought the same thing about that qoute.

Whats frustrating about Cassel is his play is "just good enough" to not ever be pulled or benched.

only for a team afraid of risk....if there was a bottom line that winning a title was the standard, then Cassel would not be coddled this way...

the whole world knows that Cassel is a mediocre piece of crap...

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OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2051115	NJ covered most of the stuff I highlighted. Here's a few extra: Thank the Eagles for Powe, KC was ready to take Chris Kelce with that pick. Thought he was the next Dan Koppen. Haley used to push Fitz so hard in Arizona that Larry would playfully offer Haley a handful of hundred dollar bills before team meetings so Haley wouldn't show his mistakes in front of teammates. Was in agreement with the move Dimitroff make to move up for Julio Jones. Dimitroff called BB and Pioli to talk about it. BB said he wouldn't do it, Pioli said he would. Called him after the pick and said, "I'm sitting here with Clark, and we both say that took some big ones. Congrats." Dimitroff started thinking about moving up for Jones in October. Julio Jones wanted to skip lunch on his visit to KC so he and Haley could go to Haley's house to play ping-pong so they could see who was better. Chiefs really liked Mark Ingram. After the playoff game, Pioli says, "We're just not good enough. At the end of the year, when we couldn't sneak up on teams and we played good teams, we felt it. What do we need? There aren't many positions we can look at and say we don't need the help there. We've got holes today, but we also have holes that are a year away. I've seen a great roster. We are so far away from a great roster. So far away." Obvious tension between Haley and Weis, though few people are aware of the depths of it. Holley doesn't elaborate other than to say they see the offense differently. The Patriots were planning on taking Steven Jackson in the 1st round of the 2004 draft, until Wilfork unexpectedly dropped to them. That's pretty much it. Overall, it seemed like of the three teams, the Chiefs gave less access, or maybe just weren't as forthcoming with Holley. Maybe Holley just didn't ask the right questions. But it seems Holley gets a lot more out of Dimitroff than he does Pioli, and honestly, I think a Falcons fan will get more from this book. There's some new Patriots info, but a lot of it is just regurgitated from his access during Patriot Reign.
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