Movies and TV History Ch. documentary on Vietnam War tonight @ 6PM - Page 2

**mlyonsd** · 11-09-2011, 05:46 PM

The series started last night. They are repeating the first couple episodes tonight and then continuing on.

The 6pm show has eye witness and film accounts of Rolling Thunder (Mel Gibson movie).

Great footage and stories.

seclark · 11-10-2011, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

I could watch those Vietnam and WWII series all day.

the Vietnam series is very eye opening for me. If I remember correctly, I don't think it was ever even covered in any of my HS classes. Or, if it was, it was so minimal I don't remember it.

i don't remember anything from school either during that time. just the nightly news.

i do remember the day it was announced we were pulling out of there. one girl was running around school screaming how happy she was that her brother was going to get to come home. he was in canada.
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**HemiEd** · 11-10-2011, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

The Old Man hated having to put ice in his beer.

Where did he get the ice?

**mlyonsd** · 11-10-2011, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by seclark

i don't remember anything from school either during that time. just the nightly news.

I can vaguley remember Walter Cronkite giving nightly body counts.

Dayze · 11-10-2011, 03:24 PM

an intersting bit I heard on one of the Vietnam HD shows was that unlike most wars that were about capturing/occupying territory/objectives, the Vietnam war (err. conflict) was strictly based on body count.

one example they gave was when the US pursed the VC to Hill 875 (not sure if this is 'hamburger hill' or not). After taking the hill, they stayed there for a while (few days, I can't remember), then just left. fFter suffering pretty significant losses 'taking' the hill if I recall, only to move away from it shortly thereafter. I think they were trying to prevent the VC from escapting into Laos and Cambodia; countries that had some sort of political agreement or something where the US couldn't pursue them if the VC made it into their country.

I'm a novice on the Vietnam war, so a lot of my comments etc were from memory after watching the shows. So, fee free to correct anything that's out of whack.

**Donger** · 11-10-2011, 04:11 PM

I see old people.

**HemiEd** · 11-10-2011, 04:15 PM

Where?!

**gblowfish** · 11-10-2011, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

I could watch those Vietnam and WWII series all day.

the Vietnam series is very eye opening for me. If I remember correctly, I don't think it was ever even covered in any of my HS classes. Or, if it was, it was so minimal I don't remember it.

Let Professor Turgeson give you a little background on the Vietnam War:

**HemiEd** · 11-10-2011, 04:27 PM

Classic

Earthling · 11-10-2011, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

I personally didn't get directly involved in the Viet Nam fighting, even though I was in the Navy the last five years of the Viet Nam war. My closest Nam experience was flying as a crewman on a C-121 Super Conny into Da Nang and picking up soldiers for R and R to the Phillipines. It was great duty.

There were similarities between that war and the current one, in that both are and were, unpopular with the American populace. The Nam war didn't really have a front, and the enemy was not easily recognized, as it could be a woman or a child.

The biggest difference I see, is that WE, the military personnel were also pretty unpopular, unlike the current attitude. It was not the "in thing" for everyone to be thanking us for our service. It was more like keep off the grass and wipe things down after you leave. But that is ok, we got paid, and received excellent training at taxpayer expense.

Sounds like me. I was flight crew member in the Navy as well on the P-3 Orion anti-submarine aircraft. (68-72) Wild times.

Marcellus · 11-10-2011, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

I personally didn't get directly involved in the Viet Nam fighting, even though I was in the Navy the last five years of the Viet Nam war. My closest Nam experience was flying as a crewman on a C-121 Super Conny into Da Nang and picking up soldiers for R and R to the Phillipines. It was great duty.

There were similarities between that war and the current one, in that both are and were, unpopular with the American populace. The Nam war didn't really have a front, and the enemy was not easily recognized, as it could be a woman or a child.

The biggest difference I see, is that WE, the military personnel were also pretty unpopular, unlike the current attitude. It was not the "in thing" for everyone to be thanking us for our service. It was more like keep off the grass and wipe things down after you leave. But that is ok, we got paid, and received excellent training at taxpayer expense.

The current war has never been as unpopular as Vietnam mainly because of 9/11 and partially because people these days find it hard to give a shit about anything that doesn't directly effect them.

No draft, no direct effect for the most part.

**HemiEd** · 11-10-2011, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Earthling

Sounds like me. I was flight crew member in the Navy as well on the P-3 Orion anti-submarine aircraft. (68-72) Wild times.

That is a coincidence, where were you stationed? We had some P3s at NAS Aganna, as well as a C130 squadron, VQ1.

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The current war has never been as unpopular as Vietnam mainly because of 9/11 and partially because people these days find it hard to give a shit about anything that doesn't directly effect them.

No draft, no direct effect for the most part.

All good points

MOhillbilly · 11-10-2011, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Where did he get the ice?

Stole it.

**HemiEd** · 11-11-2011, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd

The series started last night. They are repeating the first couple episodes tonight and then continuing on.

The 6pm show has eye witness and film accounts of Rolling Thunder (Mel Gibson movie).

Great footage and stories.

Thanks for posting this thread.

I watched it last night instead of the football. It brought back a lot of memories, and some of the stuff I learned just didn't matter back then.

It just doesn't seem like it was that long ago, but it is.

At that time, WWII and the Korean war seemed like ancient history to me, so I can understand why a lot of people now think of Nam being so long ago.

**mlyonsd** · 11-11-2011, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Thanks for posting this thread.

I watched it last night instead of the football. It brought back a lot of memories, and some of the stuff I learned just didn't matter back then.

It just doesn't seem like it was that long ago, but it is.

At that time, WWII and the Korean war seemed like ancient history to me, so I can understand why a lot of people now think of Nam being so long ago.

I was 9 in 69 when my dad's air guard unit deployed. Coming from a military family I remember the resentment from my mom/dad towards the protesters. Especially in the mid 70's when my sister turned into one of them.

Freaky time to grow up.

**Dunit35** · 11-11-2011, 09:58 AM

Thanks for your service men and women. Watching this documentary makes me mad that the vets were treated different by protestors when they got back.

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Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $1699358	an intersting bit I heard on one of the Vietnam HD shows was that unlike most wars that were about capturing/occupying territory/objectives, the Vietnam war (err. conflict) was strictly based on body count. one example they gave was when the US pursed the VC to Hill 875 (not sure if this is 'hamburger hill' or not). After taking the hill, they stayed there for a while (few days, I can't remember), then just left. fFter suffering pretty significant losses 'taking' the hill if I recall, only to move away from it shortly thereafter. I think they were trying to prevent the VC from escapting into Laos and Cambodia; countries that had some sort of political agreement or something where the US couldn't pursue them if the VC made it into their country. I'm a novice on the Vietnam war, so a lot of my comments etc were from memory after watching the shows. So, fee free to correct anything that's out of whack.
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