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Old 11-14-2011, 06:35 PM  
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God I hope this kid works out at QB.....

Win the job in practice this week Stanzi!
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Old 11-16-2011, 07:37 PM   #121
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I dont think you can say how he would feel if stanzi hadn't played for iowa.
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Boss is a stand-up guy. I think he'll admit to it.

And if he doesn't, that's fine.

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a handful posters here who give a 100% bias-free opinion of quarterbacks that play(ed) at their favorite school.
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Old 11-16-2011, 07:38 PM   #122
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I've never watched a single Iowa game. All i can go off of is what I see on Youtube, which obviously isn't much, I know that.

I would love to know legit reasons as to why he DID slide though. None of this "Statue in the pocket" shit because that's clearly not the case.

Inconsistant? I heard he was turnover prone up till his final year...
I've asked multiple times in multiple threads.

The answer I keep getting is, "Kiper and Mayock thought he was as good as Dalton."
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Old 11-16-2011, 07:38 PM   #123
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I've never watched a single Iowa game. All i can go off of is what I see on Youtube, which obviously isn't much, I know that.

I would love to know legit reasons as to why he DID slide though. None of this "Statue in the pocket" shit because that's clearly not the case.

Inconsistant? I heard he was turnover prone up till his final year...
Footwork which leads to lack of accuracy issues and decision making.
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Old 11-16-2011, 07:41 PM   #124
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I've asked multiple times in multiple threads.

The answer I keep getting is, "Kiper and Mayock thought he was as good as Dalton."
I'm asking you why IYO he dropped.

seriously, I want to know why others think. I haven't seen any iowa games so I don't see the negatives.
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Old 11-16-2011, 07:43 PM   #125
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Old 11-16-2011, 07:43 PM   #126
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At least in the ps he didn't seem to be looking to check down all the time... Which is good enough for me at this point
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Old 11-16-2011, 07:43 PM   #127
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Old 11-16-2011, 07:49 PM   #128
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WTF would I be butthurt about?

Our longstanding debate about Brandon Carr? Mike Brown? Derrick Johnson? Belcher? Aubrayo Franklin? Casey Weigmann?

Shit, come to think about it I cant remember a single debate about a player or anything football related you have gotten the better of me on.

Maybe Pollard, but he is still a starting safety in the league....even for a good defense in Baltimore.

Im seriously trying to remember one single instance, but I simply cant.

So, how exactly would I be the one thats butthurt?
What'd I say about Derrick Johnson? I was right on about Belcher he hasn't done shit. Franklin is a backup and still only has 9 less tackles than Gregg, Casey Weigmann is washed up.

The fact that you have to try and act better than someone on the internet speaks to just how small you really are.
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Old 11-16-2011, 07:50 PM   #129
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Boss is a stand-up guy. I think he'll admit to it.

And if he doesn't, that's fine.

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a handful posters here who give a 100% bias-free opinion of quarterbacks that play(ed) at their favorite school.
Nebraska QB's suck on the pro-level I will admit it.
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Old 11-16-2011, 07:50 PM   #130
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I'm asking you why IYO he dropped.

seriously, I want to know why others think. I haven't seen any iowa games so I don't see the negatives.
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Average arm strength, though better than Cassel's.

Throws a poor deep ball.

Needs serious work on decision making. At times he looked like he knew exactly where he was going with the ball and failed to look at other WR's, (sound familiar?) often forcing the ball into coverage. Turnovers.

I'd be interested to see more games, because it seemed he took a lot of unnecessary sacks. This comes back to decision making, IMO.

Doesn't seem like the type that throws his WR open, he waits until they are open, giving the defense more time to react - again, sound like someone we know?

Of course, these are all things that can be worked on. The one thing this kid seems to have in spades is work ethic (again, so does Cassel) so with some hard work and good coaching he can probably be a decent starting QB.

But I don't see him having the natural talent to be much more than a game manager.

JMO.
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Old 11-16-2011, 07:51 PM   #131
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Cool video. I can compile a video of Tom Brady's incompletions and miscues from his last game against the Jets for you and make an equally shittacular presentation
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Old 11-16-2011, 07:53 PM   #132
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Cool video. I can compile a video of Tom Brady's incompletions and miscues from his last game against the Jets for you and make an equally shittacular presentation
Why are you so sensitive? People are asking why Dalton went in the 2nd and Stanzi in the 5th when the draft analysts had them ranked similarly weeks before the draft. I'm just pointing out a game where he didn't look so good. Maybe the answer lies in what you see in the video.

PS: Ricky wants his letterman jacket back. Wash it and return.
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Old 11-16-2011, 07:57 PM   #133
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Uh, that video cherry picked every good play for Northwestern. Lame.
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Wheres the video of Stanzi throwing a check down to his RB with 7 seconds left and no timeouts?
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Why are you so sensitive? People are asking why Dalton went in the 2nd and Stanzi in the 5th when the draft analysts had them ranked similarly weeks before the draft. I'm just pointing out a game where he didn't look so good. Maybe the answer lies in what you see in the video.

PS: Ricky wants his letterman jacket back. Wash it and return.
I'm not being sensitive. What you just did is nothing more than a skewing of data that doesn't accurately represent the kind of QB that Stanzi is.

If you want talk about the cons to Stanzi's play on the field, do it legitimately like OTW and others have been doing on this very thread. What I saw in the video that you posted were some situations that put Stanzi in shitty positions. Some of the plays were Ricky's fault, but a lot of them were not.

Yeah, it's the same treatment that Cassel gets around here (ie "it's not all his fault.") But I'd much rather see if Stanzi can overcome those initial hangups. I know for a fact that Cassel has not and can not and never will. This is as good as he gets.
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