Congrats Scott Pioli!

[DaWolf]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

You've got to be kidding me.

The guy lays a complete goose egg at QB and NT.

We're seeing in Indy just how damn important a QB is to a team.

To be fair, pretty much anyone running this team has laid an egg at QB since the days of Lenny. Had we drafted Sanchez or Clausen like many of us wanted, we still wouldn't be a very good team.

I'll lay things like not having a strong OL or DL on Pioli's lap. That is the reason this team gets bullied every time we play a good team. I'll lay everything else on Haley. The whole preseason thing was a sham. This team has not grown, it has not progressed, it has regressed. You also had a whole offseason to hire a competent OC and because no one wants to work with you, you end up promoting a 90 year old OL coach to the position. Now our offense sucks and our OL is even worse than it was.

This team lacks an identity and I also lay that at Haley's feet. Pioli, I still think he's a good personnel guy, but I think the thing he does best is work behind the scenes to get players that fit a coach's plans. With a coach like Belichick, that worked great. With a guy like Haley, it won't work because Haley has no plan for what he wants his team to be. I'd give Pioli one more shot with a second head coach, but it needs to be a veteran coach who knows what kind of team he wants on the field every week...

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DaWolf

To be fair, pretty much anyone running this team has laid an egg at QB since the days of Lenny. Had we drafted Sanchez or Clausen like many of us wanted, we still wouldn't be a very good team.

I'll lay things like not having a strong OL or DL on Pioli's lap. That is the reason this team gets bullied every time we play a good team. I'll lay everything else on Haley. The whole preseason thing was a sham. This team has not grown, it has not progressed, it has regressed. You also had a whole offseason to hire a competent OC and because no one wants to work with you, you end up promoting a 90 year old OL coach to the position. Now our offense sucks and our OL is even worse than it was.

This team lacks an identity and I also lay that at Haley's feet. Pioli, I still think he's a good personnel guy, but I think the thing he does best is work behind the scenes to get players that fit a coach's plans. With a coach like Belichick, that worked great. With a guy like Haley, it won't work because Haley has no plan for what he wants his team to be. I'd give Pioli one more shot with a second head coach, but it needs to be a veteran coach who knows what kind of team he wants on the field every week...

The problem is that Haley didn't have a choice. Nobody has a choice. From day 1, Pioli has forced Haley to make the Patriot Way fit in KC. That was obvious from day 1 the minute we drafted Tyson Jackson.

Thomas Dimitroff, on the other hand, is giving his coaches the autonomy to pick their system.

[crossbow]

Originally Posted by DaWolf

To be fair, pretty much anyone running this team has laid an egg at QB since the days of Lenny. Had we drafted Sanchez or Clausen like many of us wanted, we still wouldn't be a very good team.

I'll lay things like not having a strong OL or DL on Pioli's lap. That is the reason this team gets bullied every time we play a good team. I'll lay everything else on Haley. The whole preseason thing was a sham. This team has not grown, it has not progressed, it has regressed. You also had a whole offseason to hire a competent OC and because no one wants to work with you, you end up promoting a 90 year old OL coach to the position. Now our offense sucks and our OL is even worse than it was.

This team lacks an identity and I also lay that at Haley's feet. Pioli, I still think he's a good personnel guy, but I think the thing he does best is work behind the scenes to get players that fit a coach's plans. With a coach like Belichick, that worked great. With a guy like Haley, it won't work because Haley has no plan for what he wants his team to be. I'd give Pioli one more shot with a second head coach, but it needs to be a veteran coach who knows what kind of team he wants on the field every week...

So who hired Haley in the first place?